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| Nancy Lieder |
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:41 am Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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Q: This is a little fountain. Water on the base is pumped to the top where a crystal sphere rotates all day. When I bought it in January 2005 its rotation was clockwise or like the planets from East to West. Now at the beginning of February it stopped this direction and it rotates counter-clockwise North to South.
ZetaTalk: Magma Voids
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta203.htm
‘We explained early in the ZetaTalk years that Spin (http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s86.htm) is caused by objects on the surface affected by magma under the surface, and recently that Magma Slam (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta190.htm) is due to the polar wobble and the Earth's simultaneous desire to rotate in the old direction while being tipped to its side so rotation is forced into a new direction. Thus there are magma surges that collide and have voids under the surface. Why would Edgar Cayce, in his famous Earth changes prediction, have warned 'the sinking or rising in the Mediterranean' would follow 'the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Seas'? We have explained the relationship between those parts of the globe experiencing Weather Wobbles (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta184.htm) and the Magma Slam on the opposite side of the globe, pointing out the relationship between the sudden wind storms from the South in Europe and the precursor to the Sumatra quake and tsunami. Those speaking through Cayce, a true channel, knew this relationship would exist, and would become apparent as the tipping of the globe into the 3 Days of Darkness [zeta163.htm] began. What is this relationship, specifically?
- As the globe tips over onto its side, slowly, there are dual flows, one flow going round under the Earth's middle as had been the normal rotation flow, and the other continuing to pull toward the Sun, following the Sun's rotation, the normal impetus for rotation. These two streams are composed of different magma elements, depending upon how attracted they are to elements in the Sun. Those less attracted to Sun elements follows the Earth's rotation, regardless of how it might be tipped. These dual magma streams overlap at certain points, creating the double whammy, but likewise have voids at points, as each stream expects magma to backfill its motion. Voids, then, can be created by the double whammy, as those points where these dual magma streams are pulling from can create a double void.
- Human scientists already know that the core (http://www.zetatalk.com/theword/tword14a.htm) of the Earth moves faster than the crust, rotates faster. The core pulls with the Sun, dragging the magma along with it, the crust of the Earth dragged along with the magma, and the atmosphere and oceans of the Earth dragged along with the crust. Sudden and violent wind storms from the South, accompanying the Polar Wobble (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta180.htm), indicate the Earth jerked to the South at that point, the crust moving under the atmosphere and thus the winds, the magma pulling the crust under that point and thus AT THAT POINT a magma void. Thus, the Mediterranean, which has experienced these sudden wind storms from the South, has a predictable magma VOID.
- Since the crust suddenly moved SOUTH, it has a depressing effect on the magma it is pulled over. Magma under the crust in the polar regions is moving slowly, sluggish, and at the Equator moving and swirling more rapidly. If the crust is suddenly pulled South during the wobble, it pulls along with it any magma caught in its rough edges. This sluggish magma flow, suddenly pulled atop more rapidly moving magma, creates a crowding relieved by a circular motion from the sluggish magma near the crust toward the faster moving magma near the interior. This difference is more dramatic toward the Equator, thus this flow to relieve the crowding moves North to South, as noted in this Mediterranean fountain, and from crust to interior, in a counterclockwise motion.That this fountain motion DEVELOPED only recently indicates an increased wobble, all of which will translate into volcanic and atmospheric changes.
Volcanic activity, increased eruptions in already active volcanoes, have been recently noted in the Kamchatka Peninsula. We have mentioned the sudden wind storms in Japan as being linked to anticipated Magma Slams against the spine of the Andes, and thus Japan is an area where a magma void could be anticipated. If these magma voids are causing vertical magma flows that clash with the normal horizontal magma flows, increased activity, would this not roil the magma up into volcanic outlets more aggressively?
Spin on the surface of the Earth reflects what is occurring in the core of the Earth. Spin moves in different directions when it is above or below the equator. One of the outer edges, the one on the pole side, is lined up over core parts that are moving slower than the other outer edge, the one on the equator side.
ZetaTalk: Spin, written Jan 15, 1997
(http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s86.htm)
The Earth's crust is in an equilibrium with the normal magma surges driving the rotation. Now things have changed, and this change will accelerate. Europe has experienced those, winds from the South, and on the other side of the globe from there a double whammy point, Tasmania. The US has experienced these vertical sudden windstorms, and on the other side of the globe lies the African Rift. Japan has been assaulted by sudden winds from the South in Tokyo, and on the other side of the globe lies the spine of the Andes in South America.
ZetaTalk: Magma Slam, written Dec 28, 2004
(http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta190.htm)
Where the Earth is pulled, the atmosphere is not, and lingers where it was while the crust moves beneath it. Accounts of sudden wind storms, unexpected and
out of season, are occurring.
ZetaTalk: Weather Wobbles, written Dec 6, 2004
(http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta184.htm)
Signs of the Times #1302
Edgar Cayce´s prediction about Earth change activity in the South Seas also goes on to state that activity would coincide with activity at Mt. Etna. Within three months of these events you could expect the pole shift. ... Edgar Cayce most certainly did predict this Tsunami. He also said that a major sign to watch for, following this, was Mt Etna in Italy becoming active the same time as a volcano in the Caribbean. Yesterday 3 volcanoes in that area also became active. ... Question: How soon will the changes in the earth´s activity begin to be apparent? Cayce: When there is the first breaking up of some conditions in the South Pacific and the sinking or rising in the Mediterranean and the Etna area then we would say they have begun. [and from another source] Gondolas stuck as Venice waters recede [Jan 13] http://www.cnn.com ‘Gondolas are running aground and hotel docks hang in midair as Italy´s lagoon city Venice, more commonly awash at high tide, dries out.’ [and from another source] This is not normal at all. This is the flood season in Venice and there is NO record of the canals ever going empty like this. http://www.hotelcipriani.com/ ‘Acqua alta (High tides): Generally Venice only has Acqua Alta in Autumn and Winter when some streets and squares flood. The city is well prepared with pedestrian routes equipped with special footbridges to avoid the high water and to reach the main parts of Venice.’ [and from another source] News on TV in Spain today saying the water level is down 65 centimetres in Venice. About 10 days ago there was also news on the weather report of one of the big channels here explaining to people why the level of the Mediterranean Sea on the shores of Barcelona was down 20 centimetres - they said it was due to an unusually high pressure area over the Iberian Peninsula and much of the rest of Europe. Seemed very odd. [Note: interesting correlation between Cayce predictions and present day occurrences, the tsunami in Indian Ocean, volcanic eruptions of late, and now a heaving floor in the Mediterranean.]
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| Jigsaw |
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:04 am Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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| Quote: | [and from another source] Gondolas stuck as Venice waters recede [Jan 13]
http://www.cnn.com ‘Gondolas are running aground and hotel docks hang in midair as Italy´s
lagoon city Venice, more commonly awash at high tide, dries out.’
[and from another source] This is not normal at all. This is the flood
season in Venice and there is NO record of the canals ever going empty like this. |
Ya know, this is classic fearmongering. Print only PART of the truth, and
add some outright LIES, and then sit back and wait for people to get
upset.
I found the entire CNN.com article in a Google cache, since it's no
longer on their website.
| Quote: | This is G o o g l e's cache of
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TRAVEL/01/13/venice.water.reut/
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on Feb 11, 2005 07:29:11 GMT.
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| Quote: | Gondolas stuck as Venice dries out
Thursday, January 13, 2005 Posted: 1:58 PM EST (1858 GMT)
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Gondolas moored at the Rialto Bridge in Venice are seen during an
exceptionally low tide Wednesday.
VENICE, Italy (Reuters) -- Gondolas are running aground and hotel
docks hang in midair as Italy's lagoon city Venice, more commonly
awash at high tide, dries out because of good weather and an unusual
combination of planetary influences.
Only the Grand Canal, Venice's biggest and most famous waterway,
can still take water traffic, and the falling canal levels have given rise
to terms such as "ghost town" and "desert" in local papers.
"The phenomenon is due to low pressure, that is, the good weather
that coincides with the syzygy, the alignment of the moon, earth
and sun," said Venice's tides office.
The new moon this week has helped push water levels to their lowest
point in more than a decade, nearly 80 cm (2.5 feet) below sea level,
it said. The lowest fall on record was 1.21 metres below sea level in
1934.
The city assured tourists that water levels would soon start rising again,
restoring the romantic look they expect, and reminded Venetians they
could check the water level at the city's Internet siteexternal
link. | |
See? There's a perfectly logical, normal, explanation, having to do
with high tides and the moon.
But that doesn't suit your purpose, does it?
And then add to the fearmongering the proven technique of...
oh, what are those things called?...oh, yeah, they're called "lies"...
Far from "this is not normal at all",and "there is no record of this ever
happening", it was actually only the lowest water level in a decade.
It HAS happened before, many times, and it's right there in the
CNN.com article you yourself cited--but it doesn't suit your
purpose to TELL people that, does it, Nancy?
And the statement that "there is no record of the canals going dry
like this" is not "from another source"--it's from Zetatalk.
Your source. You.
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/lou0128a.htm
| Quote: | Gondolas Stuck as Venice Waters Recede [Jan 13]
‘Gondolas are running aground and hotel docks hang in midair as
Italy´s lagoon city Venice, more commonly awash at high tide, dries out.’
This is the flood season in Venice and there is no record of the canals
ever going empty like this. |
It's been nearly two years now, Nancy. Where's Planet X?
Where's the pole shift? It was supposed to happen in May 2003.
And then in July. So, where is it? _________________ Science spoken here. |
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| Orion |
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:27 pm Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 2029 |
I normally stay out of this hysteria, however your statement
There's a perfectly logical, normal, explanation, having to do
with high tides and the moon.
makes me cringe... there is ALWAYS a bullshit logical mainstream answer to everything...
I have read so much debunker crap about Chemtrials, ELF, Scalar, I can hardly sit down... but to debunk using a "perfectly logical" answer from mainstream source, don't fly anymore with some of us who took the multi dotted pills!
Now I am not saying it ain't so, but can we please think about all the options and keep our little brains out of the mainstream box. _________________ "I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer" ~ Bene Gesserits |
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| REAR VIEW |
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:44 pm Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 441 Location: New Mexico |
According to Cayce 3 mo. from the Tsunami/Venice/Etna could only mean Late March or April this year.
But first, Los Angeles needs to have their quake...
Don't worry about a thing until the California quake hits. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:48 pm Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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So if I was the kind of human that gets asceered, I
SHOULD GET ME ONE OF THEM THERE LAVA LAMPS?
Oh, you did say if they was from Austrailia, or Greenland, did you? |
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| WOWBOBWOW |
Posted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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| idol_harobed |
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:16 am Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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| Indiamoss |
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:42 am Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 3085 Location: By the Big Apple |
"They're baaaaaaack! "
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| Indiamoss |
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:59 am Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 3085 Location: By the Big Apple |
http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/1996/08.15/PuttingaNewSpin.html
>> By William J. Cromie - Gazette Staff
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>> PUTTING A NEW SPIN ON EARTH'S CORE
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>> The metallic core of our planet is spinning faster than the rest of
>> it, according to evidence unearthed by Harvard geologists. And
>> this hellishly hot core, almost as big as the moon, apparently is
>> growing in size.
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>> "It's like a planet within a planet," says Adam Dziewonski,
>> Baird Professor of Science.
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>> It's the first major finding about Earth since the 1960s, when
>> geologists confirmed that continents and ocean bottoms drift
>> across the planet's surface at a rate of less than an inch to about
>> four inches a year. "You very seldom make planetary-scale
>> discoveries like these," Dziewonski notes.
>>
>> The whole Earth spins completely around once a day, while
>> the inner core rotates an extra three degrees or so each year. In
>> approximately 120 years, the planet within completes an extra
>> lap (360 degrees).
>>
>> If you could stand on the surface of the inner core and look up
>> at the bottoms of continents, you would see them falling behind
>> at a languid rate of about a half-mile a day.
>>
>> The solid inner is surrounded by a liquid outer core. They, in
>> turn, sit inside a 1,800-mile deep mantle of rock like a partly
>> cooked yolk enveloped by egg white. Atop the white lies a
>> 20-mile-thick cracked "shell" representing the moving
>> continents and oceans.
>>
>> The inner core itself was only discovered in 1936. Dziewonski
>> and Freeman Gilbert of the University of California, San Diego,
>> proved it was solid, rather than liquid, a scant 25 years ago.
>>
>> In 1986, Andrea Morelli, John Woodhouse, and Dziewonski,
>> working at Harvard, found a strange unevenness, or anisotropy,
>> in the inner core. Shock waves from earthquakes travel through
>> it in a north-south direction faster than in other directions.
>> Geologists attribute this to the crystalline structure that iron, its
>> major ingredient, assumes under the intense pressure near
>> Earth's center, more than a million pounds on every square inch.
>>
>> Two years ago, Dziewonski and research associate Wei-jia Su
>> showed that the axis of symmetry of the iron tilts about 12
>> degrees from the north-south axis of its rotation. Dziewonski
>> and Su located the asymmetry axis when they analyzed records
>> from 15,722 earthquakes that sent shock waves though the
>> inner core.
>>
>> Earth scientists began to discuss whether the inner "planet"
>> might rotate at a different speed than the rest of Earth. While
>> visiting the University of California, Berkeley, last year,
>> Dziewonski and geophysicist Raymond Jeanloz talked about
>> how they might solve that riddle.
>>
>> "We were riding around in a car sightseeing and discussing
>> how we could measure such rotation," Dziewonski recalled.
>> "We came up with the idea of using the axis of symmetry as a
>> marker. The many years of data we had collected could tell us
>> if and how much its position changed with time. If it moved
>> around, then the inner core must rotate at a different speed."
>>
>> Su divided 30 years of earthquake records into three 10-year
>> periods, but he couldn't come up with a clean result. Some
>> months later, Dziewonski suggested using six five-year periods.
>> When that was done, the change showed up clearly. They found
>> that path along which shock waves travel fastest, the axis of
>> symmetry, moved from west to east about 3 degrees a year.
>>
>> Talk of Torque
>>
>> Meanwhile, seismologists at Columbia University analyzed
>> the travel paths of quakes that had rattled the ocean floor south
>> of South America. These temblors sent shock waves through
>> the center of Earth and out the other side at Fairbanks, Alaska.
>> They, too, conclude that the inner core spins independently but
>> at a slower speed -- one degree a year. At that rate, it would take
>> the solid iron core 360 years to lap the rest of Earth.
>>
>> The extra rotation apparently comes from a twisting force
>> generated by the interaction between the magnetic fields of the
>> inner and outer cores. The inner core, more than 3,000 miles
>> below our feet and roasting at a temperature of about 7,000
>> degrees Fahrenheit, steadily releases its heat to the liquid outer
>> core. This heat stimulates convective motion in the latter,
>> causing molten iron to move like air over a radiator. Hot fluid
>> moves upward, cools, then slips downward.
>>
>> The highly conductive iron moving in a magnetic field generates
>> electricity, creating the equivalent of a huge generator, or
>> dynamo, at the planet's center. This electricity, in turn, has its
>> own magnetic field which is responsible for compasses
>> pointing north, northern and southern lights, and other effects
>> at the planet's surface.
>>
>> Magnetic fields in the core reach strengths of 200 or more
>> times greater than at the surface. The intense field at the bottom
>> of the outer core penetrates into the inner core, coupling the two
>> together.
>>
>> "We believe this coupling provides enough twisting motion,
>> or torque, to power for extra rotation of the inner core,"
>> Dziewonski says. The mechanism works somewhat like that
>> of a motor wherein a rapidly changing electromagnetic force
>> causes a rotor to rotate. In this case, the motor rotor is the size
>> of the moon.
>>
>> This neat explanation leaves one frustrating question: where
>> did the magnetic field come from that originally started the
>> geodynamo? "Once you get things going, the electric current
>> generated by the dynamo can reinforce it," Dziewonski notes.
>> "But we don't know how things got started in the first place."
>>
>> Sometime after Earth formed, nearly 5 billion years ago, it must
>> have been completely molten. During that time, heavy metals
>> like iron sank toward the center.
>>
>> "At first, there was no inner core," Dziewonski says. "Now it
>> is about 1,500 miles wide and 4,700 miles in circumference.
>> We believe it grows by the freezing-out of iron as Earth cools.
>> The heat that is released provides the energy to roil the outer
>> core and drive the geodynamo."
>>
>> When the inner core began to solidify, and why it developed
>> its anisotropy, remain unknown.
>>
>> It's also possible that the inner core changes its axis of
>> symmetry over time, or that the overlying mantle is slowing
>> down compared to the inner core rather than the other way
>> around. However, Dziewonski says, "the best explanation of
>> what we see is that the anisotropy is frozen so its position
>> changes correspond to movement of the inner core."
>>
>> Discovery Within Discovery
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>> During their analysis of earthquake records, Su and
>> Dziewonski found something they call "every bit as exciting"
>> as discovering the independent spin. Around 1971, the axis of
>> anisotropy, and presumably the inner core, shifted ahead some
>> 50 degrees. That's as much motion as takes place in about 17
>> years, or 50 years if you take the Columbia researchers' slower
>> rotation rate.
>>
>> "We were surprised and stunned when we saw it," Dziewonski
>> remarked.
>>
>> At nearly the same time, the magnetic field at the surface
>> underwent an abrupt change known as a "magnetic jerk."
>>
>> "This instability probably came from a change in the outer core,
>> where the field originates," Dziewonski guesses. "The change
>> may also have produced a temporary torque that jerked the
>> inner core forward. The motion of the outer-core fluid is
>> complex and poorly understood, however, so this may be just
>> a hand-waving explanation."
>>
>> To answer questions raised by finding a planet within a planet,
>> and a discovery within a discovery, "we need to constantly
>> monitor the inner core," Dziewonski says.
>>
>> That's not easy. Earthquakes occur frequently only in certain
>> parts of the world, and many of them don't produce shock
>> waves that pass through the metal core. To do a better job,
>> Dziewonski wants to add more recording stations to the
>> worldwide net of some 100 stations already in existence. He
>> also sees a need for more powerful computers to find out
>> exactly how the geodynamo works and how it interacts with
>> the inner core.
>>
>> "The expense would not be unreasonable," he maintains. "If
>> we made similar discoveries about Mars or our moon, there
>> would be a clamor to send a space mission there."
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| Nancy Lieder |
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:38 am Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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Joined: 21 Jan 2005 Posts: 363 Location: Wisconsin |
Hey Idol, give the LINK so people can get the whole story. This was a debunker game, forgery because they have such INTEGRITY.
http://www.zetatalk3.com/teams/rogue/nanc1720.htm
Moon Swirl
China, on Apr 16, 2004
Note: this is obviously a kite, and was submitted by someone other than Walter. My appologies to my public, due to the high regard I hold Walter in, I assumed this to be sincere and from him. I checked the emails from Walter over the past few months, and there are several differences.
1. this one was in perfect English and Walter does not write in perfect English (I correct the English for the web), thus was NOT written by Walter
2. this one had a larger font, line spacing for the body of the email, was indented, and line breaks the previous emails did not have, thus was written by ANOTHER email program than Walters.
3. this one submitted on April 16 had the exact same subject line as the last recieved from Walter on Feb 7, but Walter varies his subject lines, and the subject line used did not reflect the content.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 1226 Age: 33 Leo Location: Rio/Brazil |
| Nancy Lieder wrote: | Hey Idol, give the LINK so people can get the whole story. This was a debunker game, forgery because they have such INTEGRITY.
http://www.zetatalk3.com/teams/rogue/nanc1720.htm
Moon Swirl
China, on Apr 16, 2004
Note: this is obviously a kite, and was submitted by someone other than Walter. My appologies to my public, due to the high regard I hold Walter in, I assumed this to be sincere and from him. I checked the emails from Walter over the past few months, and there are several differences.
1. this one was in perfect English and Walter does not write in perfect English (I correct the English for the web), thus was NOT written by Walter
2. this one had a larger font, line spacing for the body of the email, was indented, and line breaks the previous emails did not have, thus was written by ANOTHER email program than Walters.
3. this one submitted on April 16 had the exact same subject line as the last recieved from Walter on Feb 7, but Walter varies his subject lines, and the subject line used did not reflect the content.
Nancy |
No, Nancy, your redrawal was because even your hard core believers actually saw the fraud. Talk about accuracy track record...
Nancy, you knew it was a kite since the beginning, still you pushed that story to deceive people.
SHAME ON YOU! _________________
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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| Orion wrote: | I normally stay out of this hysteria, however your statement
There's a perfectly logical, normal, explanation, having to do
with high tides and the moon.
makes me cringe... there is ALWAYS a bullshit logical mainstream answer
to everything...
I have read so much debunker crap about Chemtrials, ELF, Scalar, I can
hardly sit down... but to debunk using a "perfectly logical" answer from
mainstream source, don't fly anymore with some of us who took the
multi dotted pills!
Now I am not saying it ain't so, but can we please think about all the
options and keep our little brains out of the mainstream box. |
Okay, fine. Let's think out of the maintream box: What's your
explanation for why the tides in Venice are unusually low every ten
years or so?
1. The moon (the mainstream explanation).
2. Planet X.
3. Other (specify). _________________ Science spoken here. |
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 12:10 pm Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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Also:
Here is
an explanation of how tides work. Please explain how this mainstream
explanation is "bullshit"--what part of it does not stand up under scrutiny? _________________ Science spoken here. |
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| Natch |
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 3:25 pm Post subject: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 4082 Age: 70 Aquarius Location: SW Michigan |
Hey, people, IT'S A STORY!!!
Some of us want to follow it. You would think that people who adhere to so called rational thought and the scientific view would understand that after years of the same tired old debunking, other people STILL want to follow this story.
If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Except that the obsessive, even compulsive repetition of behavior that obviously doesn't work leaves the realm of rational thought and enters into psychological disorder, something that Nancy is often accused of.
However Nancy posts new material, which is why some of us are interested in following it, unlike the debunkers who repost the same old arguments that only annoy and take up bandwidth. Why not go attack people that read Peter Pan and prove that all life grows old and people can't fly? At least that would let us follow this one in peace.
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Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: Planet X: Magma VOID - an Explanation Description: |
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| idol_harobed wrote: | | Nancy Lieder wrote: | Hey Idol, give the LINK so people can get the whole story. This was a debunker game, forgery because they have such INTEGRITY.
http://www.zetatalk3.com/teams/rogue/nanc1720.htm
Moon Swirl
China, on Apr 16, 2004
Note: this is obviously a kite, and was submitted by someone other than Walter. My appologies to my public, due to the high regard I hold Walter in, I assumed this to be sincere and from him. I checked the emails from Walter over the past few months, and there are several differences.
1. this one was in perfect English and Walter does not write in perfect English (I correct the English for the web), thus was NOT written by Walter
2. this one had a larger font, line spacing for the body of the email, was indented, and line breaks the previous emails did not have, thus was written by ANOTHER email program than Walters.
3. this one submitted on April 16 had the exact same subject line as the last recieved from Walter on Feb 7, but Walter varies his subject lines, and the subject line used did not reflect the content.
Nancy |
No, Nancy, your redrawal was because even your hard core believers actually saw the fraud. Talk about accuracy track record...
Nancy, you knew it was a kite since the beginning, still you pushed that story to deceive people.
SHAME ON YOU! |
Idol, older people usually have vision problems, plus this seems like a magic trick by someone who hated Nancy. Why do they resort to trickery?
When I see magic tricks that fool people, I say 3 words "anticipation alters perception."
That's what happened in this instance. |
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