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FreedomCrowsNest Forum Index   ::   Out In The Cosmos   ::   Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole         Add To Favorites     Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole   View previous topic   ::   View next topic    Author Message Kent Steadman Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:49 pm   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      Nester Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 732   Location: http://cyberspaceorbit.com/  Huge ice deposits cover south pole of Mars http://www.cnn.com/2007/TECH/space/03/16/mars.water.reut/index.html Ummm. known this since the 60s, Mariner 9, even more to be seen near the poles-- unsetting stuff MARINER 9 http://cyberspaceorbit.com/mars/8331829z.jpg http://cyberspaceorbit.com/mars/Mariner16.html http://cyberspaceorbit.com/mars/Mariner20.html http://cyberspaceorbit.com/mars/Mariner32.html ------------------------------------------------------- Once Sagan [RIP] a-gandering at MARINER 9, said it was a hotspot, even mentioned pyramids http://cyberspaceorbit.com/mars/Mariner04b.html So Kent thought, gosh, guess I should look around Elysium on Mars Global Surveyor. Found this: START HERE: ELYSIUM QUADRANT ON MARS ATLAS http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/frontpage/Rgybxxx.jpg ZOOM TO THE ELYSIUM RISE http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/frontpage/15n195xx.jpg ZOOM AGAIN http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/SP2422X.JPG ZOOM AGAIN http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/frontpage/mirrorxx.jpg LAKE STEADMAN Yep, worst hornet's nest I ever stirred up, searched all around MGS Atlas on a clue from Sagan to look at Elysium. Found a lake or frozen lake or brine lake and emailed Planetary Society who gave me a song and dance about procedures, then an Ex-NASA guy hand-carried the data into NASA, then NASA started having closed meetings, heh, subject Terraforming Mars. Then I caught a raft of flak from NASA geeks concerning: ARTISTS DON'T DISCOVER STUFF. So I named it Lake Steadman to piss them off. FRIEND: what was the correct procedures BARDSQUILL: never could figure that out BARDSQUILL: raise hell for months seemed to work best ---------------------------------------- RIVER LEAH, Mars [named after my daughter] http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/riverleah.html ----------------------------------------- Wanna know what the deal is, eh? Here's the deal: When I was a young boy I was taken by the findings of Percival Lowell and the canals on Mars. Lowell thought he witnessed the retreat of a Martian civilization. Interpretations of H.G Wells and Edgar Rice Burroughs captured public vision--scholars and the average man on the streets mused about life on Mars. But then the stern Medievalists stepped in with their fundamental nix. Dimwitted priests warned to avoid the Mysteries. Blackcoats [dumbass Jesuit astronomers sworn to protect dogma] scrambled for academic letters in astronomy and leapt to regain hold on knowledge and facility. Did they fear that their priestly mojo was slipping the noose? http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/indexback229.html Lowell: Lowell's canals: Mars Global Surveyor: _________________ http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com Back to top Spec Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 8:51 pm   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      F*ing mangy sand titles Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 27020 Age: 101  Cancer Location: Earth  Yep... Back to top Chaiyah Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:52 pm   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      Amethyst Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 25365    Kent, they have to say SOMETHING, and you know they're not going to say anything REAL. I know you had copies of these Mars water photos five years ago. NASA's just BSing because they're not allowed to tell us who's on the Moon today or whom our satellites are shooting at, out there. What creeps. I'm going to try something here. Just to see if it'll work. Nope. Phooey. I have a Mars Slide Show at the bottom of my page one. http://www.abidemiracles.com but I tried to install that here, and it won't work here. : ( Anybody hear from Keith Laney? Last I heard, he was in jail, right? No word for a while. Em _________________ "You are a child of the Universe no less than the trees and the grass. You have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the Universe is unfolding as it should" Desiderata Back to top Kent Steadman Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:53 pm   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      Nester Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 732   Location: http://cyberspaceorbit.com/  SPACE.COM Ancient Mars: Waterworld Imagined http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagegallery/igviewer.php?imgid=1272&gid=99 http://images.google.com/images?q=Ancient+Mars+waterworld&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi _________________ http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com Back to top Anthony Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 10:58 pm   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      tRiCkStEr Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 12980 Age: 47  Capricorn Location: England  life existed on mars oh yes thats almost conclusive now. What if the nephilim were from mars and came to earth. Makes me wonder if Atlantis was indeed MARS _________________ " genetic engineering now, is not even close to genetic engineering then" Back to top Chaiyah Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 1:02 am   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      Amethyst Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 25365    The Nephilim are hybrids off the Annunaki; and the Annunaki are from Orion. They're also HUGE, whale sized, when they incarnate. That's where the story of the DRAGONS comes from, of which the Chinese culture has a rich mythology. In space, they're 2-3 nautical miles in diameter, is the way they travel. They diffuse and spread out so their mass doesn't get in the way of light-speed. They can also unwind (a "serpent-rope" so they can fit through a wormhole. Em _________________ "You are a child of the Universe no less than the trees and the grass. You have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the Universe is unfolding as it should" Desiderata Back to top Kent Steadman Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 4:21 am   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      Nester Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 732   Location: http://cyberspaceorbit.com/  This is surprising considering the source: nature.com NASA/JPL/Arizona State University Caves spotted on Mars Dark 'skylights' could be openings to martian shelters. http://www.nature.com/news/2007/070312/full/070312-11.html The seven sister cave holes have been named Dena, Chloë, Wendy, Annie, Abbey, Nikki and Jeanne. NASA/JPL/Arizona State University. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2007/pdf/1371.pdf _________________ http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com Back to top Anthony Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 7:28 am   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      tRiCkStEr Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 12980 Age: 47  Capricorn Location: England  that is surprising virtually everythign goes in and nothing comes out of JPL, well nothing that might stir the public conscience at least _________________ " genetic engineering now, is not even close to genetic engineering then" Back to top ArchAngel Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:12 am   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      High Flier Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 4403 Age: 42  Libra  The upper image of this composite is a ‘radargram’ from the Mars Advanced Radar for Subsurface and Ionospheric Sounding (MARSIS) on board ESA’s Mars Express. It shows data from the subsurface of Mars in the water-ice-rich layered deposits that surround the south pole of the planet. The lower image shows the position of the ground track of the spacecraft (indicated by a white line) on a topographic map of the area based on data from the MOLA laser altimeter on board NASA's Mars Global Surveyor. The images are 1250 kilometers wide. A non-annotated version of the image can be found here. http://esamultimedia.esa.int/images/Science/marsis/PIA09222-MARSIS_2682.tif The MARSIS radar echo trace splits into two traces on the left side of the image, at the point where the ground track crosses from the surrounding plains onto elevated layered deposits. The upper trace is the echo from the surface of the deposits, while the lower trace is interpreted to be the boundary between the lower surface of the deposits and the underlying material. The strength of the lower echo suggests that the intervening material is nearly pure water ice. Near the image center, the bright lower echo abruptly disappears for unknown reasons. The time delay between the two echoes reaches a maximum of 42 microseconds left of center, corresponding to a thickness of 3.5 kilometres of ice. The total elevation difference shown in the topographic map is about 4 kilometres between the lowest surface (purple) and the highest (red). More from the European Space Agency..... http://www.esa.int/esaCP/SEMSWJQ08ZE_index_1.html Back to top ArchAngel Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:21 am   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      High Flier Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 4403 Age: 42  Libra  So, if we strapped each and every member of the Bush Administration to a hydrogen bomb and launched them all at the Martian south pole would it melt the ice, and would the water flow to other places? Back to top Kent Steadman Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 3:40 pm   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      Nester Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 732   Location: http://cyberspaceorbit.com/  NASA Mars Rover Churns Up Questions With Sulfur-Rich Soil http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2007-029 Some bright Martian soil containing lots of sulfur and a trace of water intrigues researchers who are studying information provided by NASA's Spirit rover. "This material could have been left behind by water that dissolved these minerals underground, then came to the surface and evaporated, or it could be a volcanic deposit formed around ancient gas vents," said Dr. Ray Arvidson of Washington University, St. Louis. He is the deputy principal investigator for NASA's twin Mars rovers, Spirit and Opportunity. _________________ http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com Back to top Kent Steadman Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2007 8:23 pm   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      Nester Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 732   Location: http://cyberspaceorbit.com/  Says here: http://xenotechresearch.com/mwater.htm Hard Evidence Of Liquid Water On Mars Today Contrary to what we have been told, liquid water is present on Mars now Here is another link showing that liquid water can exist on Mars. This link States: ""According to the model, the highest surface pressure, 12.4 millibars, occurs at the bottom of the Hellas Basin (a low-lying area created by an ancient asteroid strike). The problem is that the boiling temperature there is only +10 °C. It can't get very hot or the water will boil away." Take note that this would be 50° F, so it means that even without salts present, there is a range of 32° to 50° in that area where liquid water can exist. And, as the article points out, large quantities of water ice are suspected all over the planet. Here is the map showing the presence of water on Mars. http://www.lanl.gov/news/photos/mars.shtml -------------------------------------------------------------- Recent Opportunity :: Panoramic Camera :: Sol 1108 http://origin.mars5.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/1108/1P226541346EFF8092P2384L2M1.HTML Panoramic Camera :: Sol 1110 http://origin.mars5.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/all/1/p/1110/1P226723584EFF80AZP2387L7M1.HTML _________________ http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com Back to top Anthony Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 6:06 am   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      tRiCkStEr Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 12980 Age: 47  Capricorn Location: England  I have to admit every picture I see of mars landscape seems damp, as though water had recently been there. Its as though the tide has gone out _________________ " genetic engineering now, is not even close to genetic engineering then" Back to top Kent Steadman Posted: Sun Mar 18, 2007 11:19 pm   Post subject:  Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Description:      Nester Joined: 15 Mar 2005 Posts: 732   Location: http://cyberspaceorbit.com/  Orginally from Washington Post: Most Detailed Image of Mars Shows Mysterious Substance "The way the surface has responded is bizarre," said lead rover scientist Steve Squyres of Cornell University, at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), which is managing the mission. "I don't understand it. I don't know anybody on my team who understands it. . . . It looks like mud, but it can't be mud." http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/04_Mars/040107.Mars.pics.html The green rolling hills of Reull Vallis http://www.esa.int/export/externals/images/ob_22_reull_p.jpg This has me head-scratching: MARS FOREST LIFE BIO-DIVERSITY-6 http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2007/115/forest-life-biodiversity-6.htm _________________ http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Page 1 of 1 FreedomCrowsNest Forum Index   ::   Out In The Cosmos   ::   Golly-gee, NASA says there's ice on Martian South Pole Jump to: Select a forum-----------------Out In The CosmosCrow's Nest Trading PostThe Z FilesRight Wing Conspiritard Garbage Dump  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum
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