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| Nancy Lieder |
 Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:41 am Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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Q: Could the Zetas explain exactly what it is that happened? Sign of the Times #1448 The Voice of the White House [Jun 9] http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1647.htm 'Two of my friends here tell me that in the middle of a small meeting last week, Bush suddenly stopped talking, his jaw dropped down and he began to stare at nothing. About the time his listeners were about to shout for a medic, he blinked, shook his head and began talking…about something not on the agenda. His dog was part of the mindless babble. We all pray that he does this live on CNN or better, FOX. George does not wear suits well being bowlegged and slightly humpbacked but he would look so wonderful in a straight jacket! On the 6 PM news at that!' Nancy’s Note: is Dubya's candle flickering? Is he disassembling? What next!
ZetaTalk: Flickering Candle
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta227.htm
‘We mentioned after the stolen 2004 election that the Puppet Master was not pleased (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta181.htm) that his Puppet Bush had resisted his instructions to allow a change in leadership (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta18.htm) in the White House. Kerry was to be allowed to win, as Bush was seen as a disaster on all fronts. The Bush camp has also resisted the gradual public education on the presence of Planet X and what the passage will mean for the average family, what to do about it, which is an education the Puppet Master wants to occur. He wants healthy survival camps, not undifferentiated panic. He also wants the Bush camp to accept responsibility for the cover-up, and this the arrogant and ambitious Bush camp has resisted mightily. This forces the Puppet Master to plan for decapitation (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta192.htm) of those in the White House, at some point in the future, to the extent that they no longer influence the monolithic federal bureaucracy. We have explained this struggle between an annoyed Puppet Master and his ambitious Puppets as a power grab (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta207.htm) by the Bush/Cheney crowd, in alliance with Japan and Israel, for world domination after the pole shit, or a peership at the very least with the Puppet Master who currently funds their endeavors via funding the national debt. How likely is THIS to succeed?
Financial clout (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta226.htm) wields more than leverage on funding the national debt, it flows like water through the maze of economics, ramifications on all fronts, and thus can affect the MAJORITY of those in power positions to act in accordance with the clout. Bush and his handlers do not control this clout, the Puppet Master does, and has been tolerant of his rebellious Puppets only to the extent that he wishes the status quo to continue, to not rock the boat during these very turbulent financial times. At some point, when the presence of Planet X can no longer be denied, this will change, with crashing economic markets the least of his worries and the need to focus the rage of the world on a clear scapegoat a critical issue. As we mentioned over a year ago, the scapegoat (http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta57.htm) long identified and selected has been the Bush administration.
Bush has not embraced this role. Weak, sheltered to the point of being coddled, anticipating a birthright not unlike a kingship, and so unable to deal with the TRUE nature of how the world views him that his sanity is affected when this is pressed on him, he is kept in a bubble by his handlers. His press conferences are limited. Any legitimate question likely to be posed at a press conference is stifled. He is fed stories by his handlers, who cast any public protests or angry article as disgruntled resentment by the losing side. But what his handlers cannot deliver is news of success. The Puppet Master controls the media, influences the media moguls, so the real polls on approval of Bush are finally being allowed to emerge. If the Bush crowd can punish and search out the origin of leaks from the vast US bureaucracy, they cannot do in Britain, and thus the Downing Street memo. The Puppet Master does not fear crashing markets as much as the middle men do, as the RELATIVE value remains the same, world wide, and in his hands in the main. Thus, squeezing the Bush team on the trade deficit, funding of the debt via the federal reserve and eager buyers of federal bonds, and thus supporting the Bush war effort, is no more painful for the Puppet Master than withholding an allowance from a rebellious child. The result, for Bush, is turmoil on the home front, decapitation of his influence.
Meanwhile, for Bush and his handlers, this is a tense time. They assert a brave front, go about business as usual, and suffer from stress diseases such as high blood pressure, headaches, ulcers, and elevated blood lipids. Bush is known to take tranquilizers, lipid busters, and booze, all of which only go so far as reality presses in, and all have their side effects. Long before the mind snaps, it slips, and these slips, OUT of the world too stressful to bear, increasingly happen, and happen for longer and longer periods of time. Thus, as Nancy states, the Bush candle flickers.’
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What might the public expect as the cover-up over Planet X unravels? How will the elite react? The elite are in the process of changing captains. When matters reach the point where each financial institution or investor starts going for themselves and no longer following the plan, as when the ship is obviously sinking, every rat leaving the sinking ship wants to be first. They are casting about for leadership within the White House.
ZetaTalk: Changing Captains, written July 11, 2003
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta18.htm
The intentional scapegoating of NASA and its handlers when emerging evidence of the Planet X complex can no longer be denied. NASA knew all along, had a firm hold on information because it was deemed a national security issue, and their masters, the White House, was holding the line. A scapegoat is deemed necessary to focus the inevitable anger, but also to allow a quick cut to the chase.
ZetaTalk: The Scapegoat, written Jan 4, 2004
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta57.htm
Now what? He will take the Bush camp down, in subtle and not so subtle ways, reducing their influence in the world and within the United States to noise - irrelevant, discredited, despised, and ignored.
ZetaTalk: Bush Busting, written Nov 27, 2004
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta181.htm
A wise Puppet Master always has several alternative plans, and this was no exception. Contemplating a messy fight that would reveal to the public the extent to which they are manipulated, versus manipulation of the Bush Administration to in essence decapitate them when the time comes, he chose the latter.
ZetaTalk: Kerry's Concession, written Jan 4, 2005
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta192.htm
Bush and his handlers have sought to place themselves in a peer position with the Puppet Master, to assert dominance over the Americas and a binding alliance with Japan and Israel, thus having a foothold into dominance in the Middle East and Asia. … We have stated that in the power shakeout that will accompany the pole shift, those at the very top and those forming sustainable survival communities at the bottom, will emerge as winners. No one will need the middle man. At present, the Bush bluster is seen as just that, as the Bush plans to dominate the world require that the world go along with this agenda. Behind the curtain, the Wizard Bush is seen for what he is - weak, cowardly, failing, and now begging for support.
ZetaTalk: Wizard of Oz, written Feb 27, 2005
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta207.htm
How will this stalemate end? When those with the power to bring the US to its knees, those with the financial clout, determine that an undifferentiated panic, more to be feared than a controlled panic, is about to begin. Then admissions will be made, fingers will be pointed, and frank discussion on what the common man can do to help himself will begin. Until then, this day is in preparation, with the Bush camp being discredited steadily, more honesty about the Earth changes allowed, and a rehearsal among the players for the finale.
ZetaTalk: Trend Lines, written Jun 11, 2005
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/zeta226.htm
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| Chaiyah |
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:47 am Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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I believe the puppet master is in industry, ceo'ing a corporation among the beltway bandits.
He's a hybrid, appears quite human, very sociable and reasonable-appearing, except that his intention is to destroy, not to enable and prosper humanity.
Zetas correct somewhat at least.
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 10:53 am Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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Zetas right for once???
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| lightstream |
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:02 am Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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I like the sound of this: "This forces the Puppet Master to plan for decapitation"
May the bunkers of the elite become lava tubes...
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| ParkRNDL |
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:06 am Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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Yeah.... Um, Nancy? What are the chances that you would actually go outside around midnight tonight, LOOK AT THE SKY and tell us what constellations you see overhead? Are you afraid to test the zeta claim that we are stuck in the December orbit position?
What are the chances that you will even respond to this suggestion?
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| Chaiyah |
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:12 am Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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Hammann, clearly you are clueless about the process of channeling.
Clearly, you expect the channelEE to understand it all, whatever it is that they GET.
When I was a legal secretary, I did not understand all the verbiage that was dictated to me.
Neither does Nancy understand all the verbiage that is dictated to her.
Do you truly have to ridicule a person whose work is taking dictation?
Have you no respect for the labor involved in doing this work?
Let the Zeta's conclusions and judgments stand on their own merit; and, if you want to behave like a decent a fair human being, leave Nancy out of it.
Otherwise, you're just a taunting child.
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| ParkRNDL |
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:24 am Post subject: Re: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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High Flier
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| chaiyah wrote: | Hammann, clearly you are clueless about the process of channeling.
Clearly, you expect the channelEE to understand it all, whatever it is that they GET.
When I was a legal secretary, I did not understand all the verbiage that was dictated to me.
Neither does Nancy understand all the verbiage that is dictated to her.
Do you truly have to ridicule a person whose work is taking dictation?
Have you no respect for the labor involved in doing this work?
Let the Zeta's conclusions and judgments stand on their own merit; and, if you want to behave like a decent a fair human being, leave Nancy out of it.
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I have had close association with more than one channel before.
I think the term is "channel", not "channelEE".
You think that "stuck in the December orbit position" is a mis-translation? Of what? We are not talking about some minor detail, here.
"Respect for the labor..."? What does that have to do with any willingness to try to confirm the information? Actually, the problem with Nancy is not willingness to *confirm*, it is the denial of anything which proves the information wrong while she calls anyone who differs with the info a paid liar.
Why would I leave Nancy out of it? She is the one claiming that the zetas are always right. When I ask a question of Nancy she is more than welcome to refer it to the "zetas" if she chooses.
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| Chaiyah |
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:53 pm Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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She's a secretary taking dictation from her "bosses."
What's the point?
It's quite evident to me that she makes every attempt to create a wholistic picture out of the pieces she gets.
It takes a lot of effort.
Where does all your contempt come from--envy or mere cynicism?
Somebody would think you were the one doing the work, from the sarcasm in your tone.
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| Natch |
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:40 pm Post subject:  Re: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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| Hammaann wrote: | | What are the chances that you would actually go outside around midnight tonight, LOOK AT THE SKY and tell us what constellations you see overhead? Are you afraid to test the zeta claim that we are stuck in the December orbit position? |
Ham, I get the picture of an intense blizzard warning issued and you are standing next to a window out of which giant snowflakes can be seen whizzing by. You are pointing to a calendar on the wall which is for June and you are saying, "People, wake up! It's June! You can't have a blizzard in June!"
It is entirely irrelevant to me whether the constellations agree with star maps at any given time or not. I have seen the moon wildly out of place myself and also seen it for the most part behaving normally. This has been reported from many places around the world. That it has not been reported in the mainstream news or by astronomers does not surprise me.
Just as the incident of Bush blanking out not being reported by the mainstream doesn't surprise me. It has been reported however, and the whole gist of this topic, that Bushco is under intense pressure and in the process of being evicted, is quite evident to anyone looking for small signs rather than billboards.
When the mainstream news reports tanking opinion polls and starts covering fringe topics such as 911 being an inside job, this is as much an indication of what's really going on as is the moon rising where it has never been seen before in a lifetime.
You can throw your little tantrums in your attempt to discredit the information Nancy forwards, but that doesn't stop those of us who choose to keep an open mind and evaluate as much of the puzzle as possible. What you do really is quite rude and disrespectful, not only to Nancy but to the rest of us who want to keep these options open.
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:45 pm Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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Natch, you always say things so much more tactfully, gently AND COMPLETELY than I do.
Give lessons?
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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| chaiyah wrote: | Natch, you always say things so much more tactfully, gently AND COMPLETELY than I do.
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Actually, I thought I was kinda 
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| ParkRNDL |
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:19 pm Post subject: Re: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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| chaiyah wrote: | She's a secretary taking dictation from her "bosses."
H- Yeah, but she does not transmit it in a nuetral way. She realtes it in a "you better believe it or you will die" way.
What's the point?
H- ?
It's quite evident to me that she makes every attempt to create a wholistic picture out of the pieces she gets.
H- If she is only transmitting a message, why would she be attempting to create anything? She doesn't seem to get "pieces" at all. It seems very complete to me. Nancy certainly doesn't admit to it being incomplete. Therein lies the problem. NANCY needs to admit the errors.
It takes a lot of effort.
H- And?
Where does all your contempt come from--envy or mere cynicism?
H- It comes partly from the time when I was private messaging with someone during one of Nancy's Saturday zetachats and she announced that I was telling people not to look at her coordinates. That was a blatant lie. Nancy has lied and disparaged the character of many over the years. I resent that.
Somebody would think you were the one doing the work, from the sarcasm in your tone.
H- Hey, I have always admired her tenacity, but that doesn't excuse her lying and attacks on others. I don't really know how, other than with sarcasm, to respond to someone who claims that things are out of place in the sky, but won't actually look at the sky.
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:39 pm Post subject: Re: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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| Natch wrote: | | Hammaann wrote: | | What are the chances that you would actually go outside around midnight tonight, LOOK AT THE SKY and tell us what constellations you see overhead? Are you afraid to test the zeta claim that we are stuck in the December orbit position? |
Ham, I get the picture of an intense blizzard warning issued and you are standing next to a window out of which giant snowflakes can be seen whizzing by. You are pointing to a calendar on the wall which is for June and you are saying, "People, wake up! It's June! You can't have a blizzard in June!"
H- Except that your analogy falls apart because there are NO snowflakes whizzing by any window. I've asked you before whether you believe that Earth is gyrating wildly on its axis. No answer yet. I have asked you whether you believe that Earth's scientists can't find a 4X Earth-sized planet right in the inner Solar System without Nancy's help. No answer yet. This last is required for anyone to believe Nancy's "White Lie" story.
It is entirely irrelevant to me whether the constellations agree with star maps at any given time or not. I have seen the moon wildly out of place
H- I think not.
myself and also seen it for the most part behaving normally. This has been reported from many places around the world.
H- "Reported"?? By whom?
That it has not been reported in the mainstream news or by astronomers does not surprise me.
H- So you believe that THOUSANDS of astronomers are unwilling to speak up? All you would have to do is go to any local astronomy club or university to confirm Nancy's story. Why haven't you done that? You think they will all lie for Nancy too? Now THAT'S paranoia.
Just as the incident of Bush blanking out not being reported by the mainstream doesn't surprise me. It has been reported however, and the whole gist of this topic, that Bushco is under intense pressure and in the process of being evicted, is quite evident to anyone looking for small signs rather than billboards.
H- Nancy is claiming billboards. None of them has been shown to be true.
When the mainstream news reports tanking opinion polls and starts covering fringe topics such as 911 being an inside job, this is as much an indication of what's really going on as is the moon rising where it has never been seen before in a lifetime.
H- No one saw the Moon rising in the wrong place.
You can throw your little tantrums in your attempt to discredit the information Nancy forwards, but that doesn't stop those of us who choose to keep an open mind and evaluate as much of the puzzle as possible. What you do really is quite rude and disrespectful, not only to Nancy but to the rest of us who want to keep these options open.
H- Kindly quote any "tantrum".
H- You know, Nancy claimed that all the pre-cursors to a May 2003 poleshift came true right on schedule. She called anyone who questioned that a paid liar at the time. Problem is, those detractors were clearly right since no poleshift occurred, hmm?
H- Question: How, exactly, did this large planet come to be in the inner Solar System without being observed? No new object was ever imaged at Nancy's coords as witnessed by her own CCD images. The very people who originally supported her imaging efforts ended up by admiting that nothing was there. So... what planet X are we talking about??
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 3:46 pm Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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PS: Natch....
Nancy has people "reporting" that Orion was abnormally "reclining" on its back. Guess what, that position is shown by any sky program to be quite NORMAL. Nancy will accept any unqualified persons "report" which seems to support her contentions. She will dismiss any which undermine her contentions. Do you know how science is supposed to work, Natch?
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| Chaiyah |
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 4:17 pm Post subject: Planet X : Bush Candle FLICKERING
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If she's wrong, why don't you just let her be wrong?
Why do you have to recreate yourself into a Grand Inquisitor?
I don't givva shit if Nancy is right or wrong. She does no harm to me.
I'll read her stuff, and it'll be "right on" or it will be "off."
I don't need to place my ego in her face.
Why do you need to place your ego in her face?
Back off. You're making yourself look vulgar.
If she's wrong, that will show up; if she's right, that will show up.
Let it be.
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