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| Kent Steadman |
 Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:01 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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Nester
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SLEUTHS: Feedback urgently needed.
For several years now I've been stumbling rather awkwardly through politics. As a result I now have a troubling question. Do you think that the United States as a whole entity is becoming an employee nation in subject to Houses and global Agencies beyond our philosophical and physical borders?
Do you think our Constitution and Bill of Rights still hold?
Honestly, at this point I feel mired in the mud and am therefore tossing a rope to you. I'm stuck!
Post here or if you wish, email me at:
bardsquill@aol.com
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| Kent Steadman |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:49 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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Some think the UN is now running the show, some say the Queen, some say Saudis, some say Israelis, some say bankers, some say the Bilderbergs, some say old Nazis from Project Paperclip, some say the House of Rothschild, some say lizards from hell...
What a gooey stew! So who are we homegrown Americans? Sliced carrots?
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| V00D00 |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 7:07 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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I get enraged when I discuss this topic .
We are not free never have been ..
The Constitution and Bill of Rights are a joke to be swept aside at the whim of the elite who control the Worlds economy..therefore they control everything .
Kent I would say that all you mention above is true to some extent ..
They are All related ...
and there is only one solution .
But i'm afraid that my brothers and sisters don't have the stomach for it .
I'm gonna shut up now ...before I break a boat load of laws..
and get picked up by guys in an unmarked truck
and hauled away to an undisclosed location
and hauled infront of a military tribuneral
to soon be executed as a
terrorist ... .. 
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| Crow Woman |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:01 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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Well certainly the United States is bought and sold and not a Government for the People, Kent. The Constitution is a relic that they continuously use to wipe their asses with. As far as sleuthing, the trail to follow seems obvious to me and that is the money trail.
V00D00....we had Sweat Lodge on Saturday and Chris, our Medicine Man, said that NDNs are listed as potential "domestic terrorists" (think AIM and Wounded Knee) and that Sundancers are the ones they watch most closely.....of which I am one. We get the helicopter and surveilance treatment at most of out major ceremonies.
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:19 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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Fledgling
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I think you summed up the list of string pullers, Mr. Emperor.
I think the alpha string puller has no idea what he is doing with his daddy's reigns, however.
What a Daft Punk Ass that poor little chimp master is. Blank is as blank does.
What is a[n] NDN Miss Crow? And a Sundancer?
Black helicopters are no stranger to me ... nor are blazing ufo's ... occultic harrassment or death and all that other sheeitta, but group gatherings are ... unless you want to count the cyberlinkies. |
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| I.M. Huami |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:30 am Post subject: Re: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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Airborne
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| Kent Steadman wrote: | SLEUTHS: Feedback urgently needed.
For several years now I've been stumbling rather awkwardly through politics. As a result I now have a troubling question. Do you think that the United States as a whole entity is becoming an employee nation in subject to Houses and global Agencies beyond our philosophical and physical borders?
Do you think our Constitution and Bill of Rights still hold?
Honestly, at this point I feel mired in the mud and am therefore tossing a rope to you. I'm stuck!
Post here or if you wish, email me at:
bardsquill@aol.com |
Kent read NO TREASON The Constitution of No Authority by Lysander Spooner.
http://www.chrononhotonthologos.com/lawnotes/notreasn.htm
We know that congress represents the globalists and not the people. How obvious can this be? Look at the lobbyists then look at thier voting records.
Voting is a sham. See election of 2000 and 2004 Diebold etc. The kangaroo courts only give the slightest appearance of justice.
All authority in this system seems to come from the threat or implied threat of violence.. Not paying your taxes? Guess who eventually comes with loaded guns to seize your property?
Didn't pay that speeding ticket to the traffic court that partially funds the judges retirement account.? After the cop with a loaded gun pulls you over again arrests you and throws you in jail for the warrant they issued. Then you are forced into a trial that is supposed to be fair. It is anything but fair before it even begins. Who pays the judge and the prosecuter? There is a serious conflict of intrest here.
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The Constitution has no inherent authority or obligation. It has no
authority or obligation at all, unless as a contract between man and
man. And it does not so much as even purport to be a contract between
persons now existing. It purports, at most, to be only a contract
between persons living eighty years ago. [This essay was written in
1869.] And it can be supposed to have been a contract then only between
persons who had already come to years of discretion, so as to be
competent to make reasonable and obligatory contracts. Furthermore,
we know, historically, that only a small portion even of the people
then existing were consulted on the subject, or asked, or permitted to
express either their consent or dissent in any formal manner. Those
persons, if any, who did give their consent formally, are all dead now.
Most of them have been dead forty, fifty, sixty, or seventy years. AND
THE CONSTITUTION, SO FAR AS IT WAS THEIR CONTRACT, DIED WITH THEM. They
had no natural power or right to make it obligatory upon their children.
It is not only plainly impossible, in the nature of things, that they
COULD bind their posterity, but they did not even attempt to bind them.
That is to say, the instrument does not purport to be an agreement
between any body but "the people" THEN existing; nor does it, either
expressly or impliedly, assert any right, power, or disposition, on their
part, to bind anybody but themselves. Let us see. Its language is:
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| Crow Woman |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:30 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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I......NDNs = Indians or Native Americans.
Sundancers are those who Sundance which is one of the most sacred ceremonies of the Plains tribes and it is also a way of life. Summer is the Sundance Season but the actual ceremony lasts 8 days....four days of purification and four days of fasting from food and water and dancing and praying from sun up until sundown.
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 8:34 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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| Kent Steadman |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:06 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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| Kent Steadman |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:20 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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Here's a real rub: as an old hippy and nature freak, I was the first to jump on the Ecology movement, save the earth and all that.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT! Much of the "Green" movent is just more control-freak stuff, Prince dippy Charlie and Gorby the Goon pushing Agenda 21 this and sustainability that just to grab more power-- for themselves.
Blow up your TV, move to the country and pay, pay, pay. Nowadays there is freakin legislation that requires a stupid permit just to collect rainwater, no kiddin!
2005 Senate Bill 5113 (Regarding rainwater collection)
http://www.washingtonvotes.org/2005-SB-5113
Look at this crap:
The communitarian plan for reinventing a global government was adopted by the UN in 1992 at the Earth Summit. There were no public votes cast for or against it in any of the affected "free" nations. Average citizens were not consulted. In most free and democratic countries, the nation's taxpayers (who pay for it) were never even told about it. The major media outlets were mostly silent while for thirteen years, the UN's LA-21 laws have been imposed on all 166 member nations.
http://nord.twu.net/acl/agenda21.html
So are we being used as dimitted pawns, eh, EH?
Clean up the mess, save the environment, for WHAT?
So some Royal can have an unfenced fox hunt? Tally-ho!
USED! USED! USED!
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Dear Odin of the Ooort, please pick out a nice diamond hard island size asteroid, tie a tag on it that says, "North Sea" and sling it on in.
SPLASH!
FIXED!
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| gengis gandhi |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:46 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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forget all the titles and extemporaneous bullshit.
there are only two groups.
the elite, those who seek to rule others, and everyone else.
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And all the war freaks die off, leavin us alone.
Well raise our children in the peaceful way we can,
Its up to you and me brother
To try and try again.
Well, hear us now, we aint wastin time no more
cause time goes by like hurricanes
Runnin after subway trains
Dont forget the pouring rain.
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| BrewBasser |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:47 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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| Quote: | | Didn't pay that speeding ticket to the traffic court that partially funds the judges retirement account.? After the cop with a loaded gun pulls you over again arrests you and throws you in jail for the warrant they issued. Then you are forced into a trial that is supposed to be fair. It is anything but fair before it even begins. Who pays the judge and the prosecuter? There is a serious conflict of intrest here |
Just to be contrary, as is my nature....
1. Don't speed.
2. Pay the ticket if you get caught.
3. Of course cops have guns, this is a usless literary tool of fear.
4. No one gets jailed for a traffic ticket bench warrant in California.
5. You pay (along with all the public) the Judge and Prosecuter that is why cases are labeled "People Vs Offender" and not "Prosecuter so and so Vs Offender".
Kent, personally I find all this doom and gloom about the constitution and government to be just that.
America is still the most free and prosperous nation on earth. Certainly top 5, so chin up me bucko!
We certainly could use some more respect for third (forth, fifth....) parties, but overall it isn't nearly as bad as some would have you believe.
MolBasser
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 9:52 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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| Quote: | | 2005 Senate Bill 5113 (Regarding rainwater collection) |
Did you read the link?
That bill seeks to rectify confusing language and make it so people do not need permits.
The state doesn't even require them now for individuals, although they may be technically necesarry if the legislation doesn't pass, which it seems it will do quite easily.
MolBasser
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| Crow Woman |
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:03 am Post subject: Re: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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| MolBasser wrote: | | Quote: | | 2005 Senate Bill 5113 (Regarding rainwater collection) |
Did you read the link?
That bill seeks to rectify confusing language and make it so people do not need permits.
The state doesn't even require them now for individuals, although they may be technically necesarry if the legislation doesn't pass, which it seems it will do quite easily.
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That's good to know, Mol....and I do appreciate many of your fact finding clarifications.
However....you can be such a Sheople, dude.
You sound like one of them "what are you woried about" Sheople....."as long as you're not doing anything wrong...."
You know, under the new PA laws, hosting this site and my words here could be "suspect" and get me locked up and without access to phone calls or legal representation and without due process.
As I type this...for all I know the Feds are talking to my ISP, bank, employer etc... without a warrant and without having to notify me that I am being investigated. Those said businesses are bound to cooperate AND not to say anything to anyone about it to anyone.
No big deal, huh?
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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:04 am Post subject: POLITICS! ARRRGH! I'M FREAKIN STUCK!
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