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| oldmanmike |
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From Hopiland, a spiritual vortex for Native people, spiritual leaders Dan Evehema and Thomas Banyacya became the voice of the voiceless: the birds and animals. Warning of the impending apocalypse, they urged all people of good hearts to join them.
Even in their last years, Evehema and Banyacya warned that material greed and ignoring spiritual truth results in climate change, and, ultimately, the destruction of the world.
Hopi Snake Priest Evehema said the disease in the world today is greed, and the final insult for this country's aboriginal people is the loss of ceremonial land.
''We are now faced with great problems, not only here but throughout the land. Ancient cultures are being annihilated. Our people's lands are being taken from them. Why is this happening? It is happening because many have given up or manipulated their original spiritual teachings.
''The way of life that the Great Spirit has given to all people of the world, whatever your original instructions, are not being honored. It is because of this great sickness called greed, which infects every land and country,'' Evehema said, at the age of 105, in a statement to all humanity.
''Now we are at the very end of our trail. Many people no longer recognize the true path of the Great Spirit. They have, in fact, no respect for the Great Spirit or for our precious Mother Earth, who gives us all life.''
Evehema said Hopi long ago were told that someone would go to the moon and bring something back. Because of this, nature would show signs of losing its balance.
''Now we see that coming about. All over the world, there are now many signs that nature is no longer in balance. Floods, drought, earthquakes and great storms are occurring frequently and causing widespread suffering.
''Now we must look upon each other as brothers and sisters. There is no more time for divisions among people.''
Evehema said there is no freedom of the press for traditional Hopi speaking the truth because newspapers only publish what the government wants printed. He said the leaders in the White House and the Glass House (United Nations) have been warned of what is to come, but have not listened. ''So, as our prophecy says, it must be up to the people with good pure hearts that will not be afraid to help us to fulfill our destiny in peace for this world.''
Banyacya was among the Motee Sinom (Hopi for first people) who urged the United Nations in 1992 to listen. Banyacya said traditional Hopi follow the spiritual path given by Massau'u (the Great Spirit). ''We made a sacred covenant to follow his life plan at all times, which includes the responsibility of taking care of this land and life for his divine purpose. We have never made treaties with any foreign nation, including the United States, but for many centuries we have honored this sacred agreement. Our goals are not to gain political control, monetary wealth nor military power, but rather to pray and to promote the welfare of all living beings and to preserve the world in a natural way.''
In 1948, traditional Hopi spiritual leaders chose Banyacya and others to carry the message forward. Repeating the wisdom, Banyacya said the Creator made the first world in perfect balance, but humans turned away from moral and spiritual principles and only a handful survived the earthquakes. The mistakes were repeated in the second world, and freezing in the great ice age destroyed the people. The third world lasted a long time and, as in the previous worlds, the people spoke one language. They invented technologies still unknown to modern man, but eventually turned away from natural laws and pursued material things. ''They gradually turned away from natural laws, pursued only material things, and finally only gambled while they ridiculed spiritual principles. No one stopped them from this course, and the world was destroyed by the great flood that many nations still recall in their ancient history and religious teachings.
''The elders said again only small groups escaped and came to this fourth world where we now live. Our world is in terrible shape again even though the Great Spirit gave us different languages and sent us to four corners of the world and told us to take care the Earth and all that is in it.''
Banyacya said mankind is in the final days of the prophecy. ''What have you, as individuals, as nations and as the world body, been doing to take care of this Earth?'' Banyacya asked the United Nations. ''In the Earth today, humans poison their own food, water and air with pollution. Many of us, including children, are left to starve. Many wars are still being fought. Greed and concern for material things is a common disease.'' Banyacya said Hopi foretold of the ''gourd of ashes'' (atomic bomb) that destroyed thousands in Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Hopi believe that the Persian Gulf would have been the third great war if use of the worst weapons had not been stopped. ''We do have a choice. If you, the nations of this Earth, create another great war, the Hopi believe we humans will burn ourselves to death with ashes. ''Nature itself does not speak with a voice that we can easily understand. Neither can the animals and birds we are threatening with extinction talk to us. Who in this world can speak for nature and the spiritual energy that creates and flows through all life?''
Banyacya said it is necessary for human beings that have not separated themselves from the land and nature to speak out. Finally, he said, the first people and the spirit of the ancestors are giving loud warnings. He pointed out that there are increasing floods, hurricanes; hail storms, climate changes and earthquakes.
''Even animals and birds are warning us with strange changes in their behavior, such as the beaching of whales. Why do animals act like they know about the Earth's problems and most humans act like they know nothing? ''If we humans do not wake up to the warnings, the great purification will come to destroy this world just as the previous worlds were destroyed.''
Evehema and Banyacya died within three weeks of one another in early 1999. Evehema died at the age of 108 on Jan. 15, 1999. Banyacya, born in 1910, died on Feb. 6, 1999. Their voices live on.
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: Unusual Hopi Indian analysis
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:16 am Post subject: Unusual Hopi Indian analysis
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OMM
When I looked into it I found Man has been F**cked with.
the opposite of the entities that did that is:
Pa Ha Na the brother from the sky, that will and has aided Mankind, is the same word in Hopi as it is in Sumerian.
The purification that the Hopi speak of is the natural consequence of this
"F**cked with".
It created a type of man who is insane, and who wants it all without regard to what any sane old timer knows are the laws of cause and effect. Deadly in a closed, finite system like planet Earth.
(as the Inuit say when teaching a son-"No you will not fix it tommorow, you will fix it NOW")
What comes around goes around.
The purification the Hopi speak of is the chickens coming home to roost.
The mother of all spankings.
The birth of a man kind that can become a stand up memeber of the great universe out there will be a painful one.
The only way we can get there from here.
Somewhere between the sane old timers and the little children the answers we need to get there may be found.
Totally IMHO of course.
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| Danbones wrote: | OMM
When I looked into it I found Man has been F**cked with.
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Howdy Dan:
Maybe man has, and maybe man hasn't. I don't like to think that we have, because it goes against my biblical belief that we have free will.
We are free to do the right thing or the wrong thing.
the opposite of the entities that did that is:
Pa Ha Na the brother from the sky, that will and has aided Mankind, is the same word in Hopi as it is in Sumerian..[/quote]
I'll remember that one, when I get my books unpacked.
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The purification that the Hopi speak of is the natural consequence of this
"F**cked with".
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What comes around goes around.
The purification the Hopi speak of is the chickens coming home to roost.
The mother of all spankings.
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Agreed. If the Bible hadn't been written, I would be an American Indian.
Over your hangover yet? 
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quote ~*: The mother of all spankings. :*~
Yeah. Really.
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:57 am Post subject: Unusual Hopi Indian analysis
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Here you go, Dan. - copied from:
http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/jd0705.htm
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The Hopi Turned Their Backs on the Pahana
In June, 1997, while working as a news reporter in Arizona, my wife and I were witnesses to a tragedy of such magnitude, I have difficulty writing about it in this column.
We had the privilege of bringing a man to the Hopi Reservation whom we are convinced was the Pahana, a long-awaited white brother possessing important information for the people. The Hopi leadership will deny this story but I know it to be true. The tragedy is that Pahana visited the reservation on three occasions and each time he was turned away.
A major Hopi prophecy concerning the end times involves two brothers who became separated. The red skinned brother remained at the Four Corners, while the white brother traveled east, toward the rising sun. The white brother, or "Pahana," was given a mission to someday return to help his younger brother bring about Purification, or a form of apocalypse, at which time the world's evildoers would be destroyed and real peace and brotherhood would be established everywhere.
When he arrived, Pahana was to be identified because he would have the ability to write the ancient language, would produce a broken half of the Tiponi, or sacred clay tablet, and once the two parts were joined, would interpret its important message to the Hopi people. Because the Hopi only possess half of the tablet it has been impossible for them to know the full text of its message.
I believe the Pahana to be our son, Aaron C. Donahue, a powerful psychic and a remote viewer, trained under the strict disciplines of Maj. Edward Dames. It was during his training that Donahue and Major Dames examined the Hopi prophecy and discovered that the missing piece of the lost clay tablet was buried with the remains of a dead elder on the reservation.
When he arrived at the reservation, Aaron not only knew where this piece of clay tablet was, he already knew the important message it contained. He was anxious to present it to the Hopi people. He also believes that remote viewing, which involves right brain functioning, is a form of ancient communication.
While he trained in California, Aaron came to the school from the eastern part of the United States, so even though he lived for a time in California, he originally arrived from the east.
The first time Donahue visited he entered the vicinity of the First Mesa in the early spring of 1996. He was traveling with a friend and they were lost. When he stopped at a rural home to ask his way, a man brandishing a shotgun greeted him at the door. Instead of receiving a friendly welcome, Aaron was ordered off the reservation, probably because of the color of his skin. He was upset by this event and spent that night sitting on the top of a nearby mesa, in meditation. At one point in the night, out of anger, he said he picked up a clay pot, raised it high over his head and smashed it to pieces.
Donahue did not know it at the time, but the breaking of that pot was part of a Hopi prophecy: "When the white brother returns, he will see if we have adhered to the way of life and have been faithful to the religious beliefs. If we have not, then he will strike an earthen pot. And the elders will say, 'No, that is too harsh.'"
It was in the spring of 1997, about one year later, when my wife and I drove Aaron to the reservation for a second visit. We came at the invitation of a tribal priest, whom I believe understood Aaron's true identity. The priest asked us to attend a ritualistic dance in Hotevilla, on the Third Mesa. It was a hot, dusty summer day. There were a lot of visitors also attending the dance, and we had to park our car at the edge of the village and walk a long way. Once there, we were invited to climb a ladder to the flat roof of one of the houses. From there we had a clear view of the dancers in the town's square. As we stood watching the Kachina dancers one of the men in the group suddenly stopped dancing. He stood still amid the other dancers, staring directly at us. And he removed his mask.
The prophecy is written that "the end of all Hopi ceremonialism will come when a kachina removes his mask during a dance in the plaza before uninitiated children (the general public)." He is described as a Saquasohuh, or Blue Star kachina. After this will be the beginning of World War III, when Hopi prophecy says the United States will be destroyed by nuclear bombing. The war is to be started by India, China, the Islamic Nations, and Africa.
Pahana's final visit was at Kykotsmovr, on the Second Mesa, also during a ritual dance. This time he was offended because the dance involved food offerings. Instead of placing food from their gardens in the center of the plaza, the dancers were bringing prepared foods, including meat, from white man's grocery stores. We could smell meat cooking on electric ranges in the houses around us and knew that the people were not living in the ways their grandfathers taught them.
Nobody invited us to the roofs this time. Instead, we found seats located around the outside rim of the open square. Aaron remained apart from the others, choosing to sit on a large rock in one corner of the square. People glared at him. He is such a sensitive psychic he can read thoughts, and knew that he was not welcome. After a while, a white woman, obviously a tourist who came to watch the dancers, rudely ordered Aaron to leave the rock. She claimed it as her seat and demanded that he give it back.
Donahue chose that moment to leave Kykotsmovr. On his way out of the village, he stood on the edge of the mesa and performed a ritual. As a row of Hopi faces watched from the roof tops overhead, he kicked his foot high in the air, sending energy far off into the universe.
He later explained that the ritual summoned Huktutu, "the red one," to bring judgment. This had been the Hopi people's final chance, and they turned their backs on him. Aaron said they judged him because of the color of his skin.
Hopi prophecy says: "he finally will just go to the edge of the village and kick an old shoe aside. That will be the sign of our punishment . . ."
I was working for a newspaper in Show Low, in Arizona's White Mountains, at the time. That week I wrote and filed a news story in which I said the Hopi rejected the Pahana, and that that Huktutu has consequently been released. I didn't expect the story to see the light of day. But for some strange reason . . . perhaps it was the magic surrounding Aaron, my editor liked the story so much he featured it on the top of the front page. The story caused quite a stir.
About a week later I received a call from an irate member of the Hopi Tribal Council. This woman was angry because of what she viewed as "bad publicity" that she feared would cut into tourism revenues received by the tribe. She demanded a correction.
I told her that her attitude was the very reason the Pahana turned his back on the reservation. That the people were no longer following the traditional ways taught them by their elders.
"How can you prove that man was the Pahana?" she demanded.
"How can you prove he was not?" I said.
I explained that he met all of the requirements of the Pahana. He knew the location of the missing half of the sacred clay tablet, he knew its message, and he was prepared to lead the people through the looming Purification and into what they describe as the Fifth World.
I did not tell her this: The secret of the two brothers and the message on the clay tablet was something that only Aaron knew and understood. It was a story of the joining together of the left and right hemispheres of our brains, and then learning to use the whole brain again for the first time after a forced shutdown that lasted thousands of years. It was the discovery of our true identities. It was the reclaiming of our third-dimensional world from alien invaders.
The woman insisted that I did not know what I was talking about. She insisted that this man could not be the Pahana.
"Suppose you are right," I said. "Suppose this man was not the true Pahana. Suppose the real Pahana is going to arrive on the reservation next week. Will you accept him any differently than you did this man?"
She could not answer this.
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 11:35 am Post subject: Unusual Hopi Indian analysis
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hi Mike:
Fine today:pigout before bed time
One big bowl of potato salad....yee ha.
Hope yer having a fine day.
Very important idea you have on your thread I think.
I'm not dismissing your view point out of hand, I have real reasons to want to get to the truth of Pa Ha Na.
As I understand it the jury is still out on Ed Dames.
Don't mind me I'm lookin for answers too, so I'll take a couple kicks at the can.
I prefer to avoid drawing on the bible as a source till the end of this post IMHO of course.
My metis roots go back to a people that were decimated when the bible showed up. the "Huron" or "Wyandot". of course the Jesuits were the advance guard for that day's version of the forces of subjugation we labor under now.
A real effort was made to get the Hurons wiped out so the Iroquois would be blamed, but they were just proxies, like the Americans are today in IRAQ.
(standard operating procedure see wolfowitz. Nothing has changed. one of the first things to get wiped was anything HISTORICALLY significant in IRAQ)
Dekanahwideh, "the Heavenly Messenger," reputed founder of the Five Nations Confederacy. He was said to have been born among the HURON of a virgin mother, and destined to bring peace and power to his people. His first miracle was building a stone canoe, in which he traveled to the Onondaga, where he made his first convert - Hiawatha. He spoke his message of peace among the warring Mohawk, Oneida, Cayuga and Seneca. His power in defying death and darkening the sun converted skeptics; a Great Peace was achieved and the Confederacy of the Five (later Six) Nations was born. Dekanahwideh planted a great white pine, the Tree of Peace, appointed 50 chiefs and slipped into the Great Lakes in his stone canoe, promising to return if the peace were threatened. This majestic narrative fostered unity among the fiercely independent IROQUOIS, and homage is still paid to his memory among the Six Nations people.
Author JAMES MARSH
Buddies poem about Hiawatha is pure BS designed to bury why he is really famous, since his name couldn't be erased)
You don't read much about the influence of the The Old Man From The Sky in the above (which took place in the 1400s ) because well, its quite threatening to anyone but us metis, but there is some incontrovertible evidence of his existence if you look in the right places.
The six nations relationships was a model for the American constitution, along with France's republic.
"The war is to be started by India, China, the Islamic Nations, and Africa."
The Hopi's predicted "gourd of ashes" has already been dropped on Japan twice. and there is real debate about how and why the pacific theater war came about...
and...
the Americans have already started a nuclear war in Iraq.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~stgvisie/VISIE/caldicott.html
11,000 US Soldiers Now
Dead From DU Poisoning
Heads roll at Veterans Administration
Mushrooming depleted uranium (DU) scandal blamed
http://www.rense.com/general63/11.htm
Parallels Between the Hopi and the Sumerian Cultures
by Robert Morningsky
"The Hopi believe Pahana was the Lost Brother who would one day return to assist the Hopi and humankind. The Sumerians would recognize PA.HA.NA as an Ancestor from heaven who would return."
http://www.dreamscape.com/morgana/parallel.htm
I don't think PA HA NA is a regular Human.
It is typical White ( human) hubris to think it might be one of us.
"There be giants in those days"
http://www.spanishhill.com/
Jon Smith, leader of a colonial bunch as you may recall, wrote in detail of the Susquehanna tribe ( Ha Na ) GIANTS...
Now, go check the bible...skip the translators, they haven't got a clue.
and maybe check out Sitchen, and/or the Sumarians...
PS
I don't need Booze to give myself a head ache,
my head gives me head aches LOL,
as anyone who reads my posts may already have noticed...
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Who spoke the spectral hound in man.
Like one that on a lonesome road might walk in fear and dread
At peace, he knows a frightful fiend doth close beside him tread."
Colleridge - The Rime of the Ancient Mariner'. and Sir Walter Scott, The !olay! of the last minstrel, Canto VI, v.26.
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:55 pm Post subject: Unusual Hopi Indian analysis
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I used to follow Donahue's work with some interest until the Pahana stunt. What a crock, an arrogant, ignorant, contemptible, ploy.
Thanks for the original story, though. It is good to be reminded of the Elders' ways & wisdom.
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Been gone for a week......futile house hunting in NC.
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I first heard of Pahana in this prophecy post. I'm no expert on anything Hopi or Indian. I just found it interesting.
 But I'm from Chemung, and I know all about the Seneca and their matriarchy. You want to read a literally hair-raising true story, google Senecan Queen Esther, and read about her gruesome role in the Wyoming Valley (Scranton-Wilkesbarre, PA) massacre. Lizzie Borden had nothing on her.
It was very easy to take this incident out of context. The context being the British using the Iroquois and Senecas as "proxies", as you said, to make war against the settlers of the then frontier of upper PA and lower NYS.
The great Seneca chief Cornplanter caused Gen. Sullivan all kinds of grief when Washington sent Sullivan up through New York State on a house-cleaning mission during the Revolution.
http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/ppet/cornplanter/page1.asp?secid=31
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OMM:
Check this site out, if you're not already familiar with it:
http://www.thehopiway.com/
They seem to have to closest finger to the pulse of Hopiland, imo. Their presentation of the "Traditionals" newsletter: Techqua Ikachi is worth the browse by itself.
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& hey, the Haudenosaunee are a-OK in my book.
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Hi OMM, 3 Crows...
Yeah I don't mean to trample any ones beliefs, its easy to either generalize, or judge based on the behavior of the few...
And I am no expert either...
What I am sure of is history is different then we are told it is.
And the six nations form of government were designed to resist tyranny.
Some one really tried to do the right thing. Once the bloodshed starts..
Its like pandora"s box
Deganaweda
There once came from the North Country, to what is now the upper western portion of New York State, a young man of Huron birth. He was called Deganaweda. Even as a child he talked of a peaceful way of existence and of harmony among the tribes. He spoke of the importance of the heart and called for an end to war- like ways and sacrifices of blood. But he found only deaf ears amongst his own Huron people, for they were war-like and not given to the ways of peace.
Our story begins when Deganaweda began a pilgrimage that would eventually bring his teachings to the five tribes of the Haudenosaunee and later, six when they were joined by the Seneca peoples. He helped them create a confederation of tribes, under a form of self-ruling government, in which there would be no royalty, no tyranny, no need for war. This unification of the tribes would later be referred to as the Great Iroquois Confederacy. Which would include the Mohawk, Onandaga, Tuscarora, Cayuga and Oneida people, who would later be joined by the Seneca and the Mohican. The Mohicans would later be all but wiped out by the Huron’s, leaving the Confederacy composed of six nations as it is described in our history books. In the confederacy Daganaweda's words were welcomed with enthusiasm and discussed around the council fires of the elders. During his pilgrimage Deganaweda met Hiawatha. Hiawatha, it is said, lived as a hermit deep within the forest. He lived alone, holding a great bitterness in his heart. He grieved over the slaughter of his family by the bloodthirsty Onadaga chief. It is said that Hiawatha had even taken to cannibalism. Deganaweda was challenged by a Grandmother to share his teachings with Hiawatha. She told him that if he could convince the angry Hiawatha, the beast of the woods, to walk in peace and harmony, then perhaps there was something to this wisdom. If he succeeded in changing the heart of this beast, then all the tribes would surely listen to him.
Deganaweda met with Hiawatha and spoke with him from his heart, for he was filled with the Great Spirit and had no fear. This meeting with Deganaweda caused a transition within Hiawatha’s being. They became inseparable, and from the wisdom taught to him by Deganaweda, Hiawatha became a renewed human being. A great friendship grew between the two, and Hiawatha became Daganaweda’s chief disciple. It is said that Deganaweda suffered from a speech impediment; he had stuttered since childhood. For this reason, Hiawatha became known as the chief spokesperson for Daganaweda’s Great Peace-- the Kia ëneri Kowa.
Both Deganaweda and Hiawatha taught that the human race was one great family. They taught of love and unity, with reverence for the Creator of all mankind and the sacredness and honour of all life. The way of the Great Peace was established. It was a great plan for social order that cantered its strength around the family fire. They taught of the inner balance of male and female within the self and in all relationships, the importance of the Mother/Father Principle. This teaching was to spread through the many single-family firesides. In the Great Peace it was taught that from these single families would come the basis of authority, leadership and the strength of the people. A natural order of social living was encouraged that allowed for the spiritual expression of all individuals. This concept was intrinsic to the integrity of their society and the establishment of the Long Houses that exist to this day.
In the way of the Great Peace, women are the keepers of the family lineage and as the bearers of life, they teach the knowledge of harmony and balance within the family. The tribe is the extended family, and neighbouring tribes should be considered relatives who are necessary for a healthy genetic evolution, an extended family, if you will. The balance within the whole of a society originates with the individual. The balance of male/female within the individual expands to the relationship between man and woman, and then into relationship with their offspring. This then expands into the extended family. All women are mothers to all the children, as are all men their fathers. The tribe was a living ecosystem for human consciousness, a living heart.
Women had equal status within the tribal council. They formed the Council of Grandmothers that looked out for the survival of the family structure above all things, for without the family structure, the people could not continue. No major decision that would affect the tribe as a whole was ever made by one individual of either gender, or any singular council; all councils were accountable to the Council of Grandmothers. Thus, they had devised a matriarchal system whereby no structure of dictatorship could arise and seize power from the people themselves. There simply was no position that allowed for the rise of a tyrant within their society.
The teachings of the Great Peace likened all war to quarrelling amongst children. Spiritual teachings were intermingled with the teaching of balance in the social order. In this culture there was no separation between living an abundant, full life and the expression of spiritual practice and beliefs because social laws were created out of an evolved spiritual understanding of human nature. In this manner, human beings learned to live in harmony with nature, thus they dwelt in a state of harmony within themselves. For nature was the kingdom with which humankind shared their dream. Mankind and Womankind were seen as spirit alive in the flesh. There was One Creator, One Father. There was one Mother. From this union came forth all their children--the human race.
So powerful were these teachings that the tribes of the Algonquin peoples formed the Iroquois Confederacy. It is from this Confederacy that much of the Constitution of the United States and the Declaration of Independence came. It is from the doctrine of life expressed by the Iroquois Confederacy by which the invading white Europeans forged the foundations of the American constitution, the basis of all Western Democracy
The Great Prophet, the Peacemaker would spend many seasons with the Haudenosaunee people they who would later be known as the Iroquois Confederacy establishing the ways of the Great Peace. All things must change and the Peacemaker would not be amongst the people forever. He heard the call to move on along his journey but before he would go he would deliver his final message to the people. It was time for him to fulfil his agreement here that he had long ago made with Creator. The people were very saddened by the announcement of his departure from them.
He met with the People one last time upon the shores of the Bay of Quinte, near what is now Lake Ontario. All the tribes were asked to send representatives to participate in a great ceremony to show their integrity and their commitment to the Great Peace. At this ceremony it is said that the people who represented each tribe of the confederacy buried their weapons of war into a huge pit over which they planted an evergreen tree.
. This tree represented the Tree of Life. Its branches reached to the heavens, to the Father. The tree and its roots represented the five tribes of the Iroquois Confederacy. The tree would grow, and send its roots deep into the earth to draw its nourishment and strength from the Mother, as did the people. The tree of life was planted upon an island in the lake, which was mostly white granite. The White granite represented, as did the white shells of the wampum belt a blanket of purity, the Mothers most pure mind. Some say that this tree is still alive today.
Wrapped within her robe of purity and wisdom, the Mother protects that original dream and wishes of those who participated in this great ceremony. Deganaweda spoke to them of Three Great Double Ideals, upon which they could build their foundation of self-government:
1. Ne Skin. Purity of the mind and of the body are tied together through the experience of the flesh. It is called the Human Drama, which is our dance through this life. Harmony between groups of people, for all of our human existence is realized through mastering the experience of relationships between each other. Inner harmony and peace, and the true union with creator, the source of all life is realized through maintaining of the balance of the spirit, while it is alive in the flesh.
Our purpose along our path is the expression of divine love of the Creator and the divine Mother through our actions, and emotions given and received through our expression of that divine love. For all has been given to us, without question, that we might reflect that which we receive from Creator and the divine Mother which is unconditional love.
2. Ne Gaiihwijo. Righteousness in deeds, action, as well as our thought should be the premise for all conduct. Our action is the expression of our true thought. Our actions often times speak louder than our words, for it is through action the inner self, the true state of being is expressed.
When we maintain a state of most pure mind, we deal with life’s events with open heart. Thus we are acting as the expression of the Creator. In this manner we maintain a justice and equality in dealing with human rights, in integrity of spirit. The superior quality within all beings is the expression of Creator who always speaks through the human heart.
Remember always it in the heart of a thing that its spirit can be found, and within its spirit is the very essence of the Creator. Creator’s deeds being from the heart are always righteous and Sacred. Our actions thus applied are filled with the power of that which is Sacred. The state of Sacred, by its own decree is the state of most pure mind. Although often silent, and sometimes soft in its action this path is for us never without power. Consider this truth, is not the Creator realized within all things? What thing exists that is not by the decree of the Creator?
3. Ne Gashedenza. It is good to maintain within your society a force that councils a skilled power for the self- defence of the people. This force must always be tempered by employing the guidance of your spiritual understandings of the higher reason of the mind. All actions taken must be of righteous intent. All things that can be called righteous are the results of the balance between the physical and the spiritual, there are no exceptions.
Therefore, when differences arise, as they will, the councils between your peoples must always be held with both the spiritual leaders and the military leaders present. The views of these councils should then be presented to the Sachems, who are your spiritual elders. They in turn must answer always to the Council of Grandmothers. The council of Grandmothers represents the social order of the people. In your societies all relationships are born from the foundation of the family fire--Mother, Father, and their children. Brother, sister, nephew, niece.
This structure is of the Mothers own design and purpose, and will reach out through your society like the roots of a great tree, seeking its strength and nourishment from the Divine Mother herself. Without the purposeful maintaining of the family fire your social order would quickly fall into disorder and decay. You are all extensions of this family fire, which is your strength when the times of change and calamity overcome you. Standing together you have the strength to withstand the storms that will come. Standing separately, without order you fall easy prey to the forces darkness, which are born of fear out of chaos, and as a people you would vanish like leaves before the wind.
We are all, in the end, brothers and sisters of one family, the children of one Mother and one Father. The balance of the male and female must be maintained within your relationships. It represents the balance of the Mother and the Father in the very process of creation, from which all of life is manifest.
In this way the Great Peace shall be established. In this way it shall be a living dream of the people that shall be handed down from Mother to Daughter, and as the bearers of life they shall pass it from Father to Son. And this peace which is born of the heart, and the people who live through this heart shall be forever. For they shall be in rhythm with the heart beat of the Divine Mother, which never ceases.
He told them that they had done well living in accordance with the Great Peace. He told them they would know much abundance, and they would be happy for a while. However, he also told them they would have great trials in the days ahead of them. He told them that a time was coming in which many of them could start to forget the principles of the Great Peace. A time was coming when the way of the serpent would rise from seeming sleep upon the land.
If the ways of the heart were forgotten and the people took to their old ways of warring amongst each other dark days would come as a result. He foretold that if the Serpents were awakened there would be a time of great trials and much suffering. In the darkness of this time they would come to mistrust themselves as well as their leaders and they would doubt even the very principles of the Great Peace.
Daganaweda told the people that he saw that during this time of the return of the serpent energy, that a White Serpent would come into their land. For a time, it would intermingle with the people. It would be accepted by the Indian people, and they would come to regard the Serpent as a friend and a brother. This Serpent would grow and be nurtured by the people and over time the Serpent would become powerful. As it grew although outwardly friendly towards the people the ultimately become obsessed with having more and more power.
This Serpent would have an insatiable appetite for power. It would seem that there would never be enough to satisfy this Serpent. It would reach out a giant claw and attempt to choke the life force from the People. If they did not succumb to the twisted will of the Serpent, which would grow more and more delirious with its quest for knowledge and power. The Serpent would grow mad and think that it could own the very Earth itself.
In its desire for more and more power, it would eventually attempt to drive off and even kill the very people who had befriended it. It would threaten to completely destroy them, and any other People that dared defy its will. Many would become addicted to the seemingly easy way of life that the Serpent would offer them, and through gradual corruption of the spirit they would fall under the power of this Serpent. The Serpents power lay in its ability manipulate the people by creating fear, and self doubt in the true spiritual path.
The Serpent was a master of illusion, and could even fool itself for a time into believing that it was liken the people itself. That it was no longer a Serpent. But while it talked of love, and a new way of life for the people it would be devouring the Earth itself. Even the beast of the forest and the great seas would flee in terror when it showed it face amongst them.
However, there would be People who would who would continues to live in the way of the Great Peace. They would see the Serpent for what it was. They would not give into fear and illusion. Although small in number they would somehow survive, the times that were coming. Many however would choose to leave rather then endure the years of struggle and hardship that would come to this land. It would be very strange times. A great struggle would develop between these few people who still held to the ways of the Great Peace and the Serpent.
There would be much contest and long suffering by the People, as the ways of the Serpent would have slowly corrupted many of them from the inside, separating them from the power of the great spirit that moved within them. The ways of the Serpent would separate them from each other, mother from child, child from grandparent. The family fire would be almost non-existent in times that were coming. If the family fire was ever allowed to be broken, if brother took to warfare against his brother it would it would only be a matter of time before all was lost. A great despair would fall upon the People and the land. Since the People were the land it would be that in time event the land would start to die.
With the Great Peace broken the once proud People of the Long House would become weary from the endless torment of the soul that would never seem to end. Daganaweda told them if the peace was broken they would become as few in number as leaves on the trees in winter, that some tribes would have vanished from the face of the Earth entirely they would be as dust in the wind. As the seasons continued, many would forget their ways entirely, and the Great Peace would appear as a myth of a distant long ago past. He told them as a result they would endure spiritual pain that would seem to be endless. He saw the people falling upon the ground like turtles on their backs. They would be as helpless as children fighting this Serpent. Then one day a Great Red Serpent would appear there would develop a great battle between the two. So great that the whole Earth would appear to shake. This shaking would occur three times.
The battle between the Serpents would be unending, and after awhile the White Serpent would appear at one point to accept defeat by the Red Serpent, but only momentarily. This was only because the White Serpent was stunned by the sudden blow of the Red Serpent's strange power and rage. For the Red Serpent would have grown quickly and mysteriously to great size. And this Serpent would have strange powers that would be unfamiliar to the White Serpent as if they came from another world.
With the coming of this Red Serpent even greater confusion, would befall the land. The White Serpent would let loose of its hold on the People in an attempt to fight off the assaults of the intruder. All of its attention would go to battling the Red Serpent. Some of the people would manage to run away to the hilly country towards the West, which would be away from the Serpent's grasp. Hidden in the hilly country their wounds would begin to slowly heal and they would seek once more a peaceful way of life and begin to return to divine order seeking harmony with the ways of the Mother Earth.
Some would begin to remember once again the old ways. They would begin to re-establish the principles of the Great Peace among themselves. People would come to them from all over, not just the Haudensaunee, but people from all nations from the four directions, from the beginning times. They would be called to gather together in the hilly country to heal from the war and terror. Here they would renew their original bonds of friendship and brotherhood, as it was during the Great Peace.
They would, at first be, small in numbers and would choose to remain neutral in the fighting that would ensue between the Great Serpents. They would slowly begin to awaken, as if from a bad dream or sickness. They would come to own themselves once again and through their renewed connection to the spiritual powers of the Earth they would grow stronger in their understanding of their dormant wisdom.
The People living close to the Earth would learn to become strong in their hearts. In this way they would become free from the fear that would be like a great plague upon the land. From this place in the hilly country their lookouts would be watching the Serpent's battle in the distance. The Serpents warring would never seem to end, for the way of Serpent energy to renew itself is through killing and war. The Serpent would create fear in the hearts of the People who would become lost and be unable to connect to the source of their creation. From their fear these Serpents would draw their energy. For the Serpent would have no energy of its own. From their place in the hilly country, the People would hear and see the battle raging between the Serpents which would become so violent at times that the mountains would begin to crack open, Fire would spew from their mouths, for the Serpents would learn to use the lightning energy and they would even grow wings as they carried their wars even unto the heavens. It is then that the rivers would begin to boil, and the fishes would turn up on their bellies. There would be great flooding and great drought. Some of the great rivers would flow upstream in an unnatural manner. The weather would become erratic and nothing would grow as it once did. It would seem as if the Earth itself was lost in confusion and sickness. In those areas where the greatest of fighting took place there would be no leaves left upon the trees, and the grasses would burn up as great fires fell from the sky. Strange bugs would appear in the sky and coming from the ground. They would be like beetles, and they would crawl along the ground and attack both the Serpents and the people. Everywhere there would be death. The land would appear as if the whole of the Earth was dying. Everywhere the Earth and all her life forms would become sickened from the stench of death and destruction.
Then there would come across the land a great heat. It would swell from the Mothers belly and move across the land in great clouds of fire. It would appear as if the bowels of the Earth were opening and spilling forth this great fire everywhere. This heat would last a long time, so long that it would cause the stench from all the death to become intolerable. Even the Serpents who would continue to battle for they loved war would themselves begin to sicken from the stench of death. Then one day a warrior who was standing lookout from the hilly country watching the Serpents battle, would see from his lookout post the Red Serpent reach around the neck of the White Serpent and pull from him a feather as he tore open his throat. This feather would be carried by the wind to the South. Here it would find its way to a Great Black Serpent that would have appeared from some mysterious place where it had been hiding in the darkness. It would have been awakened from all the commotion and warring in the North. The Black Serpent, upon studying the white feather, would be astounded, as the hair would begin to dance upon the currents of the wind as it turned itself into a white bird and then into a white-skinned woman.
This white-skinned woman would have power and wisdom. She would be skilled in the ancient arts of the People, and she would speak to him in their ancient language, which he understood. She would tell him stories as she danced upon the wind shape shift before his eyes. She would tell the Black Serpent stories of great sickness that was upon the land and in the hearts of the People. Stories of death and horror going on in the North. These things he would know somehow to be true, but again he would have been asleep deep within the belly of the Earth for a long time.
He would ask her to tell him the stories once again, for it would be unbelievable to him that such things could be occurring upon this Earth. Then, when the woman was through with her tales, he would ever so gently place her down upon a rock, with great love and respect for her purity of spirit and her personal powers.
He would then turn to the North and let loose a great roar, filling the winds with his furry over the horrors he had heard. The winds and the sound of the great roar they carried would be felt over the whole of the Earth. It would rise up from the belly of the Earth, and even be heard in the heavens. With great speed the Black Serpent would then head towards the North to find the other two.
The two Serpents would already be weary from the firestorms, and the stench of death. They would be sickened to the point that they would weak and exhausted. They would rise in horror and shock at the sudden appearance of the Black Serpent, which would seem to come from nowhere. They would recognize him but not believe his appearance possible.
The Black Serpent would attack the Red and White Serpents with a great vengeance, and he would defeat the Red Serpent entirely. Then he would stand upon the chest of the White Serpent, letting out a horrible and boastful roar as he tore him into two pieces. The battle would be short; it would not be too long before the Black Serpent would begin to look for yet another Serpent to conquer, filled with the energy of war and killing. He would have taken on the evil of both serpents and become a power of darkness that defies description. It would appear that he intended to devour the whole of the Earth, even the heavens in his furry.
The Great Black Serpent would look in all the directions for a formidable foe. When he turned towards the direction of the hilly country, he would see the People standing noble and erect, with their arms open, having fearless hearts, facing the winds of change. He would know that this was not where his fight was to be found; he would turn and look elsewhere. For a time the whole of the world would be in darkness. Great clouds will have formed from the battle and the spewing of smoke from the Mother belly. It would be as if time itself had stopped.
The Black Serpent would then turn towards a sound coming from the heavens and, for a moment become blinded by a great and mysterious light that would appear from the heavens. This light would be many, many times brighter than the Sun. This Great Light would be travelling east, coming from the West, over the great waters. It would appear in the skies for the passing of twelve of our days. When it arrives there will be no night and day. This would terrify the Black Serpent to such a degree that he would slither into the ocean, trying to hide himself from the great light. He would sink beneath the Great Waters and never be seen by the People again.
A part of the White Serpent would have survived. Although weak, he too, would see this light and make a feeble attempt to gather himself up and go towards that light. Suffering greatly from the wound received in battle with the Black Serpent, this portion of the White Serpent would find its way to the hilly country. Here it would be taken in and helped by the People, as it is their way to nurture the weak. This portion of the White Serpent would take on the ways of the People, but for a long time after, he would shake with fear whenever he again witnessed a great light.
Then, as if rising from the ground itself, the form of the Red Serpent would appear. He would also witness the strange Light shining like a great star, and he would tremble with fear. He would also try to crawl towards the North Country, but would die along the journey from his wounds. Leaving behind him a bloody trail that would split the Earth into a shaky canyon. This trail would split this land of the Turtle in two, and then into four pieces.
To the south where the Black serpent had vanished the Ice would begin melt, great pieces of ice would begin to fall from the sky, putting much of the land to the East into the deep sleep of winter. There it would be purified from the death that it had known. In these times we will witness other strange occurrences with the weather. The seas would become violent and rise covering much of the old shoreline. New cliffs would rise from the sea, as well as new lands.
The trail left behind by the Red Serpent would be washed clean as it filled with the waters from the North. New mountains would form along where the body of the Red Serpent lay still and cold in its death. This would form a new sea in the North Country, which would forever remind the people of the dark times through which they had passed.
The mysterious light would be as a mist and would engulf the entire Earth much like a giant cloud. We will be lifted from the wheel of time, and we will be unable to determine its passing. Death will cease to be. Our dream will blend and become many realities, all different yet all truth. As we experience the unravelling of the dream. We will witness the force that which allows our perceptions to manifest and express as our reality. For within this great light the nature of all things is dreamlike
From the centre of the mysterious light the Great Star would begin to emerge. The light from this star would swell and eventually become brighter even than our Sun. It would appear to take form an eight pointed star as it came closer and closer to the Earth. It would become so large that it would block out much of the heavens from our view. Its presence would cause many things to be effected and we will witness much phenomena as the new world is born before our eyes
There will appear in the heavens a great bow having the twelve colours of creation. From this bow would be heard the sound of all people, all who ever were and all that would be. Then there would be a shifting of the sound like a great harmonic. It would then appear as if they were all one voice, singing the sound of the new Creation. The sound of what had been heard so long ago when this world was itself created. When we first walked upon the Earth and wondered at the newness of her.
When the Star emerges from within the light many of the People who will have been hiding will come forth from their seclusion. Many will come from their refuge in the hills and mountains. They will be strange as if they were walking for the first time. There will be many new colours and species of life that will come forth from the great void. For they will have lifted their voices to join with the voices of the heavens.
Man and beast all manner of life form upon this plane will recognize and acknowledge their part in the spider web of life. They shall know their part in the dream for life will have become in a moment the expression of each of their visions of how things would be. There shall come a day like no other for all the creatures of the Earth in that moment of forever shall be as one, and man and beast shall communicate as it was long ago, for fear shall be a no thing. A sound shall come forth from the great star.
The people who will be coming forth in little bands from all throughout the hilly country will witness the appearance of Daganaweda, as if walking right out of this Great Star, returning to the People. The Peacemaker would be joined by many others as the dream of horror would come to a close. With his return there would be much rejoicing, and the people would feel like they had awakened from a dream. They would once again walk the way of the Great Peace, Kia ëneri Kowa, and form a new and great civilization that will continue into forever, creating a new world from the essence of the old. In this world even the eldest of us would be as children, yet possess the wisdom of experience of the ages that had come before.
We will join once again with our brothers from the stars. No one shall be denied, and no one shall be untouched in this time. No dream shall not come to pass, and no thought shall go unrealised. To speak more of it would serve no purpose for it will be beyond our comprehension what will occur. The way of the Kia neri Kowa shall help create the new world you seek. That which is created shall be born of the heart.
The time for the need for darkness will have passed. You will once again be as you were in the beginning children of the Sun and you will feel as if you have awakened from a dream. Your need for death and dying shall no longer serve the purpose it did before, for you will be walking upon the pathway of your foreverness. Man and spirit shall be as one in the Great Peace.
It is told.
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Like him of whom the story ran,
Who spoke the spectral hound in man.
Like one that on a lonesome road might walk in fear and dread
At peace, he knows a frightful fiend doth close beside him tread."
Colleridge - The Rime of the Ancient Mariner'. and Sir Walter Scott, The !olay! of the last minstrel, Canto VI, v.26.
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According to many in the Haudenosaunee community, the U.S.'s "constitutional" government was based on their model...the only branch of government the U.S. forgot to include was the Council of the Grandmothers. who wielded supreme power over all the other branches.
So that's where we went wrong...
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