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| Croze |
 Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject:  Speaking of Iran
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tRiCkStEr
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More fuckery afoot...
http://www.planetsave.com/blog/2007/10/15/renegade-white-house/
Renegade White House:
By: Anthony J. Gerst.
The clock is running out on Bush-Cheney’s global reign of terror. One of their primary objectives still eludes them, an attack on Iran. With all the saber rattling and posturing, not to mention all the ink being run about what may very well become this administration’s biggest bungle, nothing can be found related to the Chinese impact. China and Iran have negotiated extensive trade agreements and a pipeline deal for oil shipments. For that matter, the Chinese, Russia, and Iran have been working on energy related deals that tie in directly to the pipelines and oil reserves of Iran and Russia.
Unless this administration has discussed the proposed carpet bombing of Iran with China, such an attack could result in grave repercussions to the US economy.As China can bring incredible pressures upon the US, not to mention with the weakened dollar, this is the best time for the international community to act together, to establish a new corner stone for international finance.
Bush-Cheney fail to think beyond the pocket books of the oil cartel, with Israeli and Gordon Brown backing a US led strategic carpet-bombing. The White House has been actively pursuing this goal for at least six months. Despite pleas from the Republican leadership, it appears if Cheney can find a way, Iran will be attacked. Cheney’s office this past summer pushed the Joint Chief’s of Staff to redraw plans for an attack on Iran. The focus now is on a strategical strike against the Revolutionary Guards. The administration believes they can defend this, as a response to the invasive activities of Iran inside Iraq. They can site President Clinton’s strategic attacks in the Sudan and Afghanistan to quell the Democrats uproar.
From a former senior intelligence official, according to Seymour M. Hersh’s article ‘Shifting Targets: The Administration’s Plan for Iran:’ “There is a desperate effort by Cheney et al. to bring military action to Iran as soon as possible. . . But Cheney doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the Republican worries, and neither does the President.”
It is now known that at CIA headquarters the majority of the Iraq Desk, has been reassigned to the Iran task force, in order to bring about this mission of the renegade White House. Hans Blix former head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.) had this to say in the aforementioned article. “My impression is that the United States has been trying to push up the accusations against Iran as a basis for a possible attack-as an excuse for jumping on them.” Even our supporting allies are worried over this move. This past July British troops in Afghanistan uncovered an SA-7 missile coming into Afghanistan from Iran. They were reluctant to pass this information to the United States. A retired CIA agent who worked closely with the British had this to say, “The Brits don’t trust the Iranians, but they also don’t trust Bush and Cheney.”
There is too much at stake to allow a foolish attack upon Iran. It was our collective arrogance that created this fiasco in Iraq. Therefore, we are to blame for the rise of Iran as a regional player. Until another administration takes over Washington, we as Americans must realize that no action to unite Iraq will be forthcoming, as this administration is only interested in the monopoly interest of the oil cartel. An attack on Iran would launch a wave of terrorist retaliations across the globe. Hezbollah, under the wings of Iranian influence are ready to react with international terror strikes. The unknown response from a untied front of China and Russia are issues that cannot be ignored.
Cheney is banking on a complacent world. In case you haven’t noticed the world is no longer complacent to U.S. interests. With regret we are but one Executive Order away from a disaster that will make the invasion of Iraq look like a success. Sadly, as Commander and Chief, the Leader of the Free World, this lies in the hands of one man. In the end it comes down to this, will George stand up and be a man, or will the Puppet Master again pull the strings?
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: Speaking of Iran
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I-ran so far away, flock of seagulls It will be the out of reach fruit for the Neos, much ado about nothing. Iran will get is NUKES and will be making money with its oil and gas. The Evil ones will not prevail
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: Speaking of Iran
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tRiCkStEr
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Bush-Cheney fail to think beyond the pocket books of the oil cartel, with Israeli and Gordon Brown backing a US led strategic carpet-bombing. The White House has been actively pursuing this goal for at least six months. Despite pleas from the Republican leadership, it appears if Cheney can find a way, Iran will be attacked. Cheney’s office this past summer pushed the Joint Chief’s of Staff to redraw plans for an attack on Iran. The focus now is on a strategical strike against the Revolutionary Guards. The administration believes they can defend this, as a response to the invasive activities of Iran inside Iraq. They can site President Clinton’s strategic attacks in the Sudan and Afghanistan to quell the Democrats uproar.
From a former senior intelligence official, according to Seymour M. Hersh’s article ‘Shifting Targets: The Administration’s Plan for Iran:’ “There is a desperate effort by Cheney et al. to bring military action to Iran as soon as possible. . . But Cheney doesn’t give a rat’s ass about the Republican worries, and neither does the President.”
It is now known that at CIA headquarters the majority of the Iraq Desk, has been reassigned to the Iran task force, in order to bring about this mission of the renegade White House. Hans Blix former head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (I.A.E.A.) had this to say in the aforementioned article. “My impression is that the United States has been trying to push up the accusations against Iran as a basis for a possible attack-as an excuse for jumping on them.” Even our supporting allies are worried over this move. This past July British troops in Afghanistan uncovered an SA-7 missile coming into Afghanistan from Iran. They were reluctant to pass this information to the United States. A retired CIA agent who worked closely with the British had this to say, “The Brits don’t trust the Iranians, but they also don’t trust Bush and Cheney.”
Fuckity fuck fuck!
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 12:48 am Post subject: Speaking of Iran
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last line above said the Brits don't trust the Iranians. Well, check out Blair's speech last night in New York when you get up this morning. I've just listened to him prattling on about Iran leading the world's terrorists in their rush to destroy the American / British way of life (surely he should have been honest and said death - I digress). This in front of a largely Catholic audience. The fawning idiots gave him a standing ovation. I felt sick as I drove through Wigan knowing that he's become some kind of celebrity. Even sicker when the BBC guy described how Blair's views are shared by most Americans. I hope he was being facetious, but you can't tell these days who's joking and who's being serious.
Yesterday someone claimed the US government is the worst, but I think it's our new Labour buggers who're the real swines.
love stu and Lilian
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:25 am Post subject: Speaking of Iran
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| Quote: | | ...the American / British way of life (surely he should have been honest and said death - I digress |
You have a bit of the redoubtable Mark Twain in ya, stu.
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:59 am Post subject: Speaking of Iran
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You have to understand Blair's past to grasp how sick, or maybe ironic, this whole UK/US axis of evil has become.
When I was a kid I honestly thought that Labour was like the Democrats and the Tories were the equivalent of the Republicans. Now Blair has displaced any integrity that Labour used to have by supporting what I consider the rich and powerful. They never need support. The poor, weak and downtrodden need support. I am really fed up with New Labour. It's a disgrace
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:19 am Post subject: Speaking of Iran
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| stu wrote: | You have to understand Blair's past to grasp how sick, or maybe ironic, this whole UK/US axis of evil has become.
When I was a kid I honestly thought that Labour was like the Democrats and the Tories were the equivalent of the Republicans. Now Blair has displaced any integrity that Labour used to have by supporting what I consider the rich and powerful. They never need support. The poor, weak and downtrodden need support. I am really fed up with New Labour. It's a disgrace
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Odd...Hillary Clinton is doing the same thing to the Democratic party.
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:43 am Post subject: Speaking of Iran
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Seems to me none of this news makes any sense unless one moves past the national state national security arguments and examines the biggger forces at work.
If it is indeed a US/UK Imperium in play, with Europe playing second fiddle, then of course Iran will be attacked and the consequences will be harsh but they will be managed.
China is a paper tiger though-they need USA more than USA needs them. If the Chinese dump the dollar they doom their economy.
The objective is One World Government by any means necessary. I am not entirely sure what this NWO will take the shape of-it may depend on how many warbirds fly-but likely it will a regional based entity-continental in scope and not national.
United Regions might be a better way to speak of it.
Driven by corporate needs, elite greeds, and prosaic facts like it is a bad idea to sell cruise missles to people who might use them.
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 1:25 pm Post subject: Speaking of Iran
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| Publius wrote: | Seems to me none of this news makes any sense unless one moves past the national state national security arguments and examines the biggger forces at work.
If it is indeed a US/UK Imperium in play, with Europe playing second fiddle, then of course Iran will be attacked and the consequences will be harsh but they will be managed.
China is a paper tiger though-they need USA more than USA needs them. If the Chinese dump the dollar they doom their economy.
The objective is One World Government by any means necessary. I am not entirely sure what this NWO will take the shape of-it may depend on how many warbirds fly-but likely it will a regional based entity-continental in scope and not national.
United Regions might be a better way to speak of it.
Driven by corporate needs, elite greeds, and prosaic facts like it is a bad idea to sell cruise missles to people who might use them. | nonsense, the origami tiger is the usa, they went and destroyed nations left and right, to salvage a system that is more corrosive than the acid rain it generates, here we have the deluded leader of the world doing more harm to America than any of their manufactured Osamas, he "BUSH" is the epitome of failure and it couldn't have got a better representative, looking at the silver lining, the west due to fossil fuel depletion, will in a couple of decades come up with alternatives to fossilized energy, in the interim is going to be China with the manufacturing power, American companies so willingly provided it with, and the new partnerships cultivated around the globe will have a better chance to weather any economic stagnation than the US with the many enemies it nurtured to life, around the globe
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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 3:17 pm Post subject: Speaking of Iran
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| Arrgonaut wrote: | | stu wrote: | You have to understand Blair's past to grasp how sick, or maybe ironic, this whole UK/US axis of evil has become.
When I was a kid I honestly thought that Labour was like the Democrats and the Tories were the equivalent of the Republicans. Now Blair has displaced any integrity that Labour used to have by supporting what I consider the rich and powerful. They never need support. The poor, weak and downtrodden need support. I am really fed up with New Labour. It's a disgrace
love
stu and Lilian |
Odd...Hillary Clinton is doing the same thing to the Democratic party.
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That IS what the republicans want us to believe
Truth?
Iran had a democratically elecfted government until 1953 when the Eisenhower/Nixon CIA "orchestrated a campaign of terrorist bombings" and overthhrew it to put the Shah in as rightwing dictator.
Look at a map or globe!
Afghanistan and Iraq on the east and west of Iran are both occipied by amerikan invaders.
It is obvious to anyone that the bushies are planning war with Iran.
btw in amerika:
Truth
TYhere has never been a bigger difference between Democrats and Republicans.
Republicans suspended the Constitution ans Bill OF Rights with their' usapatriot act
Democrats want to restore Constitutional government, fight terrorism, strengthen America's borders, and leave neutral innocent nations to govern themselves.
Republicans want to continue illegal spying on all of us, let illegals swarm across from Mexico to provide cheap labor, even thousg criminals are among them, and support invasions of innocent nations instead of fighting terrorism.
Britain may have lost it's reform party, whe "labor" was taken over by their' conservatives but America has two parties:
"Democrats" are the only hope for reform short of revolution. |
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